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Old December 8th, 2010, 07:57 AM   #1
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The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasnít you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if youíre a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If youíre not a property owner, you know, Iím sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners.
Do you agree with Judson Phillips that it makes sense to restrict voting rights to property owners?
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Old December 8th, 2010, 08:04 AM   #2
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It's a good idea.

Better have property owners decide than electoral college.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 08:09 AM   #3
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Yes! That and an established work history.
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They would find ways around it. Someone would sell 1'x1' sections of their property so someone would have the right to vote. Or they would sell a piece of property to 10,000 people.

But I do not agree with this. In many expensive places like NY and such people rent apartments rather than buy houses. There is no reason they should not have a right to vote.

I see what Judson is getting at. Maybe there is some calculation over the last 2 years if you have received more in government aid than you have paid into with taxes you lose the right to vote.
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They would find ways around it. Someone would sell 1'x1' sections of their property so someone would have the right to vote. Or they would sell a piece of property to 10,000 people.

But I do not agree with this. In many expensive places like NY and such people rent apartments rather than buy houses. There is no reason they should not have a right to vote.

I see what Judson is getting at. Maybe there is some calculation over the last 2 years if you have received more in government aid than you have paid into with taxes you lose the right to vote.
There is an easy way around it. Make voting contingent of owning a residence. Unless you can reside on a 1'x1', you would not be able to vote.
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I think we had it made when it was the white men doing all the voting.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 09:18 AM   #7
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I don't agree.

That would so screw all of us that lost our homes out of our right to vote..
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I don't agree.

That would so screw all of us that lost our homes out of our right to vote..
That's the point. If you are not responsible enough to keep your own house, why do you think you are competent to vote?
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That's the point. If you are not responsible enough to keep your own house, why do you think you are competent to vote?
I owned a home, sold it and moved into an apartment while I look for another home. So now I can't vote? I think not.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 09:28 AM   #10
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That's the point. If you are not responsible enough to keep your own house, why do you think you are competent to vote?
What if you're responsible enough to not purchase a home, but rent instead? You shouldn't vote? That's moronic.
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I owned a home, sold it and moved into an apartment while I look for another home. So now I can't vote? I think not.
Yes. If you don't have an established residency, you should not make decision about a community you temporarily live in. If you care enough to vote, don't sell before an election.

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What if you're responsible enough to not purchase a home, but rent instead? You shouldn't vote? That's moronic.
If you don't value voting enough, then go ahead and rent.
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It's a pretty stupid idea in today's world. Especially in places like DC, NYC, or San Francisco where owning a home is inordinately expensive. These locations still need a labor supply who is willing to rent in the area to be close to their place of work. Or what about a person who owns a house in Atlanta but sells and moves to Austin for whatever reason but they decide to rent for the first year that they are there in order to make a more informed decision before purchasing. Does that person lose their voting rights?

Do the elderly who sell their home to move in with their family or into a senior complex lose their voting rights?

Do people who live in co-op buildings who own a share of the building but not their actual residence have voting rights? Some would argue that co-op members might be more concerned and take a greater interest in their homes and residence than some trailer parker who owns a lot in Watertucky somewhere.

And screw those in the military living in the barracks or base housing - they won't get to vote either unless they also maintain a property elsewhere.
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I believe that in addition to owning a home, it should also be required that you are over the age of 30 and you have a family. Family means you are married and have kids.
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And screw those in the military living in the barracks or base housing - they won't get to vote either unless they also maintain a property elsewhere.
Judson Phillips is against the troops!
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Old December 8th, 2010, 10:42 PM   #15
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I like it!

but I actually care about people who care about themselves so that makes sense.
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Can we see some Obama on pushing comunism, hows that affect voting rights?
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Be careful what you wish for. I do not want to see any movement towards restricting voting rights for any reason. Just wait, they will eventually come up with a reason to restrict YOUR voting rights.
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Be careful what you wish for. I do not want to see any movement towards restricting voting rights for any reason. Just wait, they will eventually come up with a reason to restrict YOUR voting rights.
True. As a white guy I'm about to be a minority in a few years


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I'm torn.

Voting is clearly for everyone.

However, I do get distressed at non-taxpayers voting on things like tax levys (i.e. non-property owners voting on property tax increases). Ideally, I believe those votes should be restricted to those affected but don't see a way to do so until we can embrace electronic voting.
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