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Old November 10th, 2010, 12:47 PM   #41
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most certainly this will continue to be litgated and debated - in part because the stereotypical Christian White Family is gradually becoming a smaller part of our Nation's demographics.
I agree 100%, but at the current time, it is the supreme court's decision on the topic.


But then again, what is entanglement?
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I agree 100%, but at the current time, it is the supreme court's decision on the topic.


But then again, what is entanglement?
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The Constitution has so many Christian values that Jesus Christ is not mentioned at all. This country was founded on value of religious freedom, not the values of a single faith. Most faiths have similar values as Christianity and many are older so you can't say the bible is the first religious document that states basic behaviour values within society.

Since you are not a free thinker, I would suggest you drink the kool-aid.
God is mentioned, so God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are all in one. Just because JC is not mentioned and God is. What's the problem
No where in the constitution does it mention Islam, Budda or any other religion only Christianity and the bible.
What faiths are you talking about as being older than the bible?
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God is mentioned, so God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are all in one. Just because JC is not mentioned and God is. What's the problem
No where in the constitution does it mention Islam, Budda or any other religion only Christianity and the bible.
What faiths are you talking about as being older than the bible?
Isn't the bible only 2,000 years old?

I'm guessing in the other BILLIONS of years before the bible was written that there were many religions.
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God is mentioned, so God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are all in one. Just because JC is not mentioned and God is. What's the problem
No where in the constitution does it mention Islam, Budda or any other religion only Christianity and the bible.
What faiths are you talking about as being older than the bible?
um, pretty much all of them? Except Church of the Latter Day Saints. That one is as all american as you can get.
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God is mentioned, so God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are all in one. Just because JC is not mentioned and God is. What's the problem
No where in the constitution does it mention Islam, Budda or any other religion only Christianity and the bible.
What faiths are you talking about as being older than the bible?
Judaism would be one, since most people view the Bible as inclusive of the New Testament...

And multiple other religions use their translated term as "God".
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Old November 10th, 2010, 01:08 PM   #47
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Proof?
All you have to do is read the 10 commandments to see that aber's claim is moronic.
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um, pretty much all of them? Except Church of the Latter Day Saints. That one is as all american as you can get.
while Christianity, Islam and Judaism all claim Abraham-based foundations, Islam "was given by God through the angel Gabriel to the prophet Muhammad" in or around 610 AD - Christianity therefore would predate Islam by most accounts.
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while Christianity, Islam and Judaism all claim Abraham-based foundations, Islam "was given by God through the angel Gabriel to the prophet Muhammad" in or around 610 AD - Christianity therefore would predate Islam by most accounts.
I don't understand why the first god allowed all the other gods to show up. That's silly
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I don't understand why the first god allowed all the other gods to show up. That's silly
Us Christians of course believe that the 1st God is the 2nd God, that the Muslims smoked some pretty potent camel dung.

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I agree 100%, but at the current time, it is the supreme court's decision on the topic.


But then again, what is entanglement?
So what's the problem? If what he did is against the law, as you say it is, then there should be no problem for that legislative act to be declared unconstitutional.
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So what's the problem? If what he did is against the law, as you say it is, then there should be no problem for that legislative act to be declared unconstitutional.
I'm guessing you didn't watch the video.
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I'm guessing you didn't watch the video.
I'm guessing you don't know how to answer.
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I'm guessing you don't know how to answer.

Your question makes no sense, since there was no law creation.
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Your question makes no sense, since there was no law creation.
If there was no law creation, then your entire rant doesn't make sense.

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Talking about God? That is fine, nothing wrong with that. Prayer? Nothing wrong with that.

Now making LEGISLATIVE DECISIONS BASED ON THE BIBLE? I have a big problem with that.
Looks like you made the assumption that the bible was being used as support for the legislative decision, since there was no legislative decision, then based on your above statement, it is clear you have no problem with what the republican did, so all that fuss was about nothing.
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Looks like you made the assumption that the bible was being used as support for the legislative decision, since there was no legislative decision, then based on your above statement, it is clear you have no problem with what the republican did, so all that fuss was about nothing.
No, he was using the bible in order to make his case for the law, which was shot down. The problem is he was lobbying for a law in session with a bible as the basis of the law.
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No, he was using the bible in order to make his case for the law, which was shot down. The problem is he was lobbying for a law in session with a bible as the basis of the law.
But it was shut down, so your point was moot from the beginning.

I'm guessing you were in support of the law and see that him reading from the bible prevented the legislation from being adopted.

Why not just say that?
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First off, I'm happy you've read the constitution, all people should.

Research Jefferson's letter to the Danbury baptists which explain his thoughts on the 1st amendment. You can take the constitution many ways, but if you want to know what it truly was designed to mean, you can r......
Someone already went over this but it wasn't to protect the government, it was to protect the church from the Government. Why else would he be writing it to a Church. He was reassuring them that the atrocities of the Church/Government state in Europe woudl not be allowed here. That the Government woudl have no part in the church. That's why most came over here, to get away from Governmental control of their faith. To get away from the Corruptness that they were sick of.

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Sure, religion plays a lot into some peoples lives, and I'm sure that alters their voting, but to openly read the bible and state that is why you feel this way about a law shouldn't be happening.
Why not? We're taught from History books that are wrong now. Should it be outlawed that any person that learned from "insert text ISBN number here" should not be allowed to make an opinion on a law because it COULD be wrong? No. Not at all.

Just because you have a Distain for the Christian Faith doesn't mean what you think about it is right. Nor does it mean that the majority of our nation should think like you either. I'm sorry you have a problem with it but allowing a book to have an effect on our opinions and feelings is something we all do. Even you.

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Judaism would be one, since most people view the Bible as inclusive of the New Testament...

And multiple other religions use their translated term as "God".
See, I see the two as the same religion. Christianity is the Fullfillment of Judaism. So does that make Christianity Judaism? No. But it's roots are from that religion.

Of Course, I'm not everyone and you could technically say Islam has it's roots in The Very Early Judaism.

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I don't understand why the first god allowed all the other gods to show up. That's silly
He didn't. He created us with the ability to worship anything we wanted. We choose to worship the things he created instead of him. Well, Some of us I guess.

I really don't see what the big deal is. "Oh No, this guy bases his Opinion on a book that is pretty morally sound" AHHHH!HH!HHH!HH!H!!!h

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"Oh No, this guy bases his Opinion on a book that is pretty morally sound"
Remind me what the rules are for stoning people morally.
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