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Old December 11th, 2014, 09:14 PM   #1
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people are stupid and like to complain...This could make silver lake so much better and people can better prepare for weekends up north. If you cant afford $10.00 you shouldn't be at silver lake.

http://www.oceanacountypress.com/201...parks-outrage/

http://www.wzzm13.com/story/news/loc...unes/20265257/
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Old December 11th, 2014, 09:15 PM   #2
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Old December 11th, 2014, 09:26 PM   #4
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missed that one, thanks
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Old December 11th, 2014, 09:34 PM   #5
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people are stupid and like to complain...This could make silver lake so much better and people can better prepare for weekends up north. If you cant afford $10.00 you shouldn't be at silver lake.

http://www.oceanacountypress.com/201...parks-outrage/

http://www.wzzm13.com/story/news/loc...unes/20265257/
Ignorance of Condescending arrogance, welcome to my ignore list.
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Old December 11th, 2014, 09:56 PM   #6
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people are stupid and like to complain...This could make silver lake so much better and people can better prepare for weekends up north. If you cant afford $10.00 you shouldn't be at silver lake.

http://www.oceanacountypress.com/201...parks-outrage/

http://www.wzzm13.com/story/news/loc...unes/20265257/
To a family going there a couple times a year with one vehicle it would be no big deal I agree, but for many people I know this is not the case. Multiple vehicles, and both days almost every weekend all summer, that $10 could become a lot more, not to mention lots of people went out of there way to have set ups that dont' require parking lot vouchers just so they dont' have these issues, there's just so much wrong with the proposed system.
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You've been racking up the tally marks on your ignor list lately, how many have you got now?
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Reading the other thread made going to silver lake sound like a giant pain in the ass.


That makes me not want to go.


Probably makes other people not want to go.


So there you have it- closing parks without actually closing parks, by making it a major hassle to get in.
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I've been there 3 times in 30 years. Not a big deal for me.
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Reading the other thread made going to silver lake sound like a giant pain in the ass.


That makes me not want to go.


Probably makes other people not want to go.


So there you have it- closing parks without actually closing parks, by making it a major hassle to get in.
I agree it sounds like a big hassle, really it isn't that bad. On holiday weekends it may be, but not any other time.
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it wasn't passed as far as I know.
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it wasn't passed as far as I know.
it was tabled to allow more research or something like that, meaning it will probably come back around, hopefully revised to suit everyone better.
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I agree it sounds like a big hassle, really it isn't that bad. On holiday weekends it may be, but not any other time.
Right.

It sounds like a hassle, so someone who has never been may just skip it.
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Old December 12th, 2014, 08:53 PM   #15
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It is not about being able to afford the extra money, it is the point of them taxing us more and more. It will be $10 then $20 and will keep going. Also, you realize that the money will go to a Canadian company. If they think this will eliminate lines it will not. The lines will just be in a different spot.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 10:56 AM   #16
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It sounds like a hassle, so someone who has never been may just skip it.
I go up 2-3 times a year depending on how frustrating the trip was before for getting vouchers. I never even try to get a parking lot voucher as that is a huge PITA. Its not a pain for dune ready as long as its not 1 of the holiday weekends, or planned for a nice weather weekend...which is another 3-4 weeks a year. I went for 1 holiday weekend last year...had to get in line on friday at 5am wait for 7 hours in the car and still couldnt get the time frame voucher I wanted. I also went for a non holiday weekend and still had to get in line friday morning to get a voucher. If you have all kinds of vacation time saved up(to use just to get vouchers on friday) and are ok with sitting in a parked vehicle for 7 hours on a friday morning then the current voucher system would be considered a pretty good time. I think the DNR/state figured charging $10.00 for a voucher would be no big deal since POS people go and get extra vouchers and then sell them for $20-$50.00 for a weekend. I have seen it many times. With that being said I would pay $20-$50 for a weekend voucher to not have to sit in line for 7 hours and waste a vacation day, and pay an extra night for a hotel. I would feel better if the state could give this online system business to a US, or Michigan company though.
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From top to bottom, the proposed new system is a BAD deal, and it's only partly about the money.

Refer to the other thread for further discussion.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 04:44 PM   #18
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The biggest issue I see Is they want you to print it out. If you are camping up there how many will have access to a printer?
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I read on other sites that the $10 does not go to the state, it goes the the IT company that runs the voucher system. So if that is true it will not help make the park better. Haven't had time to verify.

If this was mentioned above sorry for the dup.
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I guess we have really struck a nerve with the dnr, every Silver Lake related facebook page has been suspended due to improper name use. This only happens if the page is reported, so I wonder who reported these pages.
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