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Old November 27th, 2012, 06:24 AM   #381
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seems like many people run the e2000 on motor swaps without issue.
mount it closer to the tank, i bet it works.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:23 AM   #382
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I have a hard time understanding how the multiple pickups work any better than a single in the middle. Once the high side can start sucking air I would think it would become the path of least resistance. Maybe the concept is that it always stays primed???
If I remember right, the pickups close when no longer sucking fuel. I don't remember details or how exactly it works, but I seem to remember reading that if one or two get starved for fuel, they shut and the other ones continue to feed fuel to the pump.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #383
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If I remember right, the pickups close when no longer sucking fuel. I don't remember details or how exactly it works, but I seem to remember reading that if one or two get starved for fuel, they shut and the other ones continue to feed fuel to the pump.

Yup, I believe that is correct that the pickups will close off when there is no fuel. This allows you to still pull fuel when you are getting low and on a steep in/decline.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #384
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this is my super bad ass fuel tank that has way too much work and time into it. 4 switching pickups feeding an airtex E8248 fuel pump with a corvette pressure regulator and filter, all in the tank using 3/8" hard line and compression fittings. I need to run 2 wires to a military style cannon connector that will seal to the tank. I will have 2 wires to the tank and one -6 pressure line from the tank to the engine. my goal is to make it so simple looking that it looks unfinished.

originally the tank came with blue -8 connectors and a crappy excuse for a pick up tube. I decided that I wanted black fittings for all of my AN connections since i was already swapping from -8 to -6, it was a little tricky but I got it to work. I searched all over and couldnt find a -6 roll over valve that was black. I bought a -6 bulkhead in black and did some light modifications to make a -6 roll over valve out of it.

the rest are some random pictures of things I have been killing some time on until the next batch of plates come in from Tab at True North Designs.


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The 4 pickups in the tank thing-

At an angle, extreme enough that 1, 2 or 3 of your 4 pickups are in air instead of fuel, why will the fuel pump pull fuel from the one submerged pickup, and not just draw air from one of the 3 "paths of least resistance"?
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because they automatically close themselves as soon as they sense air on the pickup screen. http://apeusa.com/html/pickups.html
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Old November 27th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #385
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i would never put the filter in the tank, especially one that is also a regulator
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:16 PM   #386
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to answer your text message questions:

I bought the $24 a foot rubber submersable hose. i got a small pipe cutter and cut the fuel inlet tube up higher near the top of the cell. with the 1ft flexable line i could set the pump in the tank mounted to the threaded rod. install hose from pump to stock fuel outlet in top of tank. then set steel rci filler neck on and send the 3/8 in the hole i had already in rci top. tighten lid and tighten bolt on 3/8 rod. all done.

as for wires i drilled and installed in chord grip connector. ill take a picture for you. its an electrical connector i use at work alot. cost me $5.86 at the supply house. but basically it bolts to the rci lid. then it has a rubber bushing with a 1/4" hole that i fed the 2 #14 wires threw. Then it has an outer threaded hub that tightens the rubber bushing and seals around the wires. i chose the rci filler to mount everything because it was removable and i could keep from any debris falling into cell when drilling it out.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 11:17 PM   #387
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Ok I understand the multiple pickups. For me I've never run out of gas on an incline so I'm good with a centered pickup.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 11:17 AM   #388
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Alright, I am going to put an oem TBI pump in the cell using Nicks threaded rod Idea. The pump has a 3/8" outlet and I believe the RCI siphon tube is 1/2" so I ordered a stainless double-barb from Grainger so I can plumb the pump to a shortened pickup tube. I played with some #10 screws isolated by fuel line and nylon washers and I think I'm going to try to make them work as terminals.

Besides explosion, burns and death, whats the worst that can happen?
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Old November 28th, 2012, 12:36 PM   #389
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Can't be any worse..
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Old December 3rd, 2012, 01:36 PM   #390
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All done. I haven't driven it anywhere yet but it seems to start better than before.... I wonder if the Blue pump would bleed down or something. Either way, no explosions yet and its back together.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 08:07 AM   #391
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Somebody poisoned my transmission
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Old February 19th, 2013, 08:33 AM   #392
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Old February 19th, 2013, 09:06 AM   #393
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Looks like pieces of the rear planetary gear.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 08:37 PM   #394
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Trans is pulled. Weighing my options, what do you think:

1) Build another 700R4, cross fingers.

2) Sell Rubi 241OR and 700R4-to-231/241 adapter and shaft, build a bad-dude TH400 and mate it to a Chevy 241 with a sye.

I like 4th gear, I would miss it. I'm not sure that I like 4:1 as much as I thought I would but I don't want to lose the strength by stepping down to weaker outputs.

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If I were changing things, I would opt for overdrive. There are many times I shift to high range for a very short distance & then shift back. Other than that, I have nothing to add.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 07:43 AM   #396
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I'm with you on driving around in low, especially with 4:1. I guess I'm wondering if I can give up that need if I step back to a 2.7:1, and really only lose 4th on fast road sections.

I like the 700, I just keep breaking them. I don't really have room for a 4L80, nor do I care to drop down from the 32spline of a 400 or 4L80 to the Jeep 23..... and nobody is making a 32 spline input for my 241OR.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 10:48 AM   #397
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I like the th400-241/208 combo, cheap and tough, good low range. There was one on here a while back with a 27 spline output for cheap. I understand the overdrive thing in a dd but in a toy not so much. The same th400 has been in my camaro for over 20 years, behind several big blocks/nitrous hits, and with a 4000 stall converter. Doubt anyone could say the same for a 700r4.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 07:23 PM   #398
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The 4L80E SOUNDS a lot bigger than the 4L60E/700R4 but when I did the swap in my Scrambler it really didn't cause much issue. Only trimming I had to do was for the different dipstick routing, but I had mine pushed pretty tight to the firewall to begin with. It's in Jeepbrattt's TJ now, so maybe she, Fabricator, or Liv2mx could speak to the fitment in hers.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 08:11 PM   #399
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Old March 5th, 2013, 08:59 PM   #400
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