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Old October 25th, 2010, 06:48 PM   #1
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I'm going to build a exo for my 86 4runner . I don't want to do a complete front to rear ,but more of the cab forward type . How much aprox tubing will I need and don't know if I should use 1.5" or 1.75" dom . I would like to buy a bender & notcher too. I am thinking of a pro bender 4 . anyways tell me what you have done for your exo .
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Check to make sure any of the designs you go with aren't patented.
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PM Rhyno ZJ, he owns all the cool patents with 8ball gussets.
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Yea I'm pretty sure it's not patented. I bought all the patents on Ebay for like a buck 2 years ago for ALL exo's so everyone that has an exo better pay up ! And you know it's legit if it was bought on Ebay But seriously any aprox figure on the dom tubing amount and size? I think the size I 'm leaning to is 1.5" The cage is a bit redundant, since I have a full internal cage but ,I like my body and especially the windshield and roof area . I know I will flop it eventually and would like it to survive . I've seen too many rigs do a exo after the flop
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They are just being dicks.. Good question I just bought the JD pro 3 model bender and am starting my cage soon. I'll let ya know how much tube i eat up.
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It all depends on your design. I was dreaming about an exo for my Rubi, with an A,B,and C hoop I was looking at approx. 40-45' of tube for just the hoops, then it depends on how many cross pieces, braces, grill hoop, etc that you want. Mine was going to end up using about 5 full sticks of 1.75 x .120 DOM. That plus the cost of a bender and die put it out of my price range. For now anyhow. And I forgot the $1,000 bill for patent infringement.
Post up some pics when you do yours though.
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They are just being dicks.. Good question I just bought the JD pro 3 model bender and am starting my cage soon. I'll let ya know how much tube i eat up.
Yea I know it's funny, except when you have an actual question. I 'm curious how much was the jd bender with die and stuff ? That was another choice I was looking at. I will do my cage fairly soon if the funds are right . I'm trying to have some of my buds to pony up some cash to help out since I will be using the bender on some of their projects . The bender's seem reasonable till you get the die and stand and shipping . Thanks again for the straight answer ,(you too Hot Wired .) You would think there would be alot of used one's for sale, but I cannot find one anywhere.
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I think mine was right around $1,000 with dies (2 dies). Seems to be very well built have not bent anything with it yet tho.
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I think mine was right around $1,000 with dies (2 dies). Seems to be very well built have not bent anything with it yet tho.
That's what I thought, not horrible, but still a decent amount . So with 1 die it would be about 750? Then a notcher about 1k total . What looks like the drawbacks of the probender one ,it's like 1100 with a notcher and it's air over hydro. It looks slow to me but would be nice to turn a valve and bend while enjoying a cool beverage
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I drew up a bunch of ideas that it liked then took another peice of paper and labeled the the different peices of tube *a,b,c, etc etc* on the drawing and went and measured about what it would be on the truck. Then i took all the measurements and figured out what peices i could get out of a stick. Descent amount of work but gives a pretty good ball park idea. Just gotta remember to add some to the measurement taken, dont want to measure short and just because you need 65ft to do it doesnt mean 65ft will work. Have to account for getting the peices you need out of a 20-24ft stick not a 65ft stick
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I drew up a bunch of ideas that it liked then took another peice of paper and labeled the the different peices of tube *a,b,c, etc etc* on the drawing and went and measured about what it would be on the truck. Then i took all the measurements and figured out what peices i could get out of a stick. Descent amount of work but gives a pretty good ball park idea. Just gotta remember to add some to the measurement taken, dont want to measure short and just because you need 65ft to do it doesnt mean 65ft will work. Have to account for getting the peices you need out of a 20-24ft stick not a 65ft stick
Exactly what I did, x2 on the part about getting the pieces out of the individual sticks. I thought I had been told 18-22 ft per stick around here, so that would be worth checking on first also.
BEEFY, it sure wold be easier if you and your bender moved down this way for the winter. Get some of your money back on the cost of the bender by charging a small fee (per bend?) to use it too.
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Old October 27th, 2010, 12:03 PM   #13
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Yea def find out what the size of the sticks your gonna get are. I figured mine out with 18ft sticks and ended up being 22s or 24s, so i ended up just taking a stick off and still ended up with more i think. Mores def better then less
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My cage will be similar to that cage nice design Mud'N'Truck
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Thanks man, just need to finish building it now

Heres how mine is, give ya some idea with your runner

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Thanks man, just need to finish building it now

Heres how mine is, give ya some idea with your runner
very nice !post pics when your done . By the way how hard is it to bend 1.5" dom with a manual bender?
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This is how I want to do mine but no door bar and not the 2 windshield bars in the middle.
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Thats 1.75 .120 dom and did that with manual bender and wasnt bad
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Yea I'm pretty sure it's not patented. I bought all the patents on Ebay for like a buck 2 years ago for ALL exo's so everyone that has an exo better pay up ! And you know it's legit if it was bought on Ebay But seriously any aprox figure on the dom tubing amount and size? I think the size I 'm leaning to is 1.5" The cage is a bit redundant, since I have a full internal cage but ,I like my body and especially the windshield and roof area . I know I will flop it eventually and would like it to survive . I've seen too many rigs do a exo after the flop
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go with 1.75", i use a cut off saw for nothcing, works pretty good, i tried hole saws but they are too time consuming and expensive. biggest thing is make sure your fitment is good so you can get a good weld.

as far as the amount of tubing, i would over estimate, that way you wont be running back and buying more and it will give you some freedom for error, plus 1.75 is pretty common so you could always sell what you dont use.
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