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Old January 2nd, 2011, 06:45 PM   #182
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Near the first part of the trail, best part but very tore up at this point
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Old January 2nd, 2011, 06:46 PM   #183
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Actually you couldn't see it, but I don't think you would of made it trans no trans v8 or 4.3

Everytime you got even close to getting the front tires up on the lip your rear diff pumpkin slammed a root/rock and bounced you every single time you even got close.
Ya i think large tires 47's or bigger would be needed to get up that hill it was eatin up my 42's. Best i did was get my rear tires to that last lip and winched over the top.
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Old January 2nd, 2011, 07:01 PM   #184
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It's driveable if you take the right line.

Are you sure you did all the hard trails? How about the log crawl?
no im not really sure? we did most of them though.
i know we didnt do the logcrawl.

big ugly was sweet till you got to the hole near the top of the hill.
if that part gets fixed it will be SWEET!
there is no right line at all!
if you had 49's or 54's and rocks with a big block and no fear, possibly?
it would most certainly be violent though. the undercut is real deep!
otherwise its pretty much winch over that spot.

it was alot of fun.

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Old January 2nd, 2011, 07:24 PM   #185
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Frank,
Seriously, that hole is doable. The line is hard to the right and you feel like you are going to slide over on your right side. You have to get your left tires into the middle of the hill to miss the big hole. Plus, it takes a commitment when you attack it.

Edit, well, maybe not after watching the vid of Josh babying it and digging it out.

And for the record, a trail should never be "fixed" just because some people can't make it. There is no way any park should have all of their trails doable. There should always be something that makes you want to go bigger or badder.

Just pull the cable if you need to.

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Old January 2nd, 2011, 07:52 PM   #186
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well put whiterhino!!!
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Old January 2nd, 2011, 09:32 PM   #187
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Frank,
Seriously, that hole is doable. The line is hard to the right and you feel like you are going to slide over on your right side. You have to get your left tires into the middle of the hill to miss the big hole. Plus, it takes a commitment when you attack it.

Edit, well, maybe not after watching the vid of Josh babying it and digging it out.

And for the record, a trail should never be "fixed" just because some people can't make it. There is no way any park should have all of their trails doable. There should always be something that makes you want to go bigger or badder.

Just pull the cable if you need to.

Hell I wouldn't even try that hill in the summer, let alone with snow on it, not that the snow lasted long. I've seen much better rigs than mine swallowed by the hole. But how do you get your left tires to the middle when there is the tree and roots on the right?
But I agree with you, don't change a thing on the trail, that's what my winch is there for.
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Old January 2nd, 2011, 09:41 PM   #188
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Frank,
Seriously, that hole is doable. The line is hard to the right and you feel like you are going to slide over on your right side. You have to get your left tires into the middle of the hill to miss the big hole. Plus, it takes a commitment when you attack it.

Edit, well, maybe not after watching the vid of Josh babying it and digging it out.

And for the record, a trail should never be "fixed" just because some people can't make it. There is no way any park should have all of their trails doable. There should always be something that makes you want to go bigger or badder.

Just pull the cable if you need to.
Lol that was all it had! The trans is not happy with the new REAL tires I pit on it
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Old January 2nd, 2011, 10:08 PM   #189
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We had a great time, first trip up there. We stuck to mostly blue trails - that nasty slimy snot-like coating on everything made getting around on ATs a bit interesting. "Pack a Lunch" was a good one, especially as the temps dropped later in the day and slimy turned into ice on some of the hills. We had our own personal trail guide Brian (Gar's son) who rode along with us for part of the day. He was tasked with making sure we didn't get stupid while wandering around the park by ourselves.
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Old January 3rd, 2011, 07:16 AM   #190
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We had a great time, first trip up there. We stuck to mostly blue trails - that nasty slimy snot-like coating on everything made getting around on ATs a bit interesting. "Pack a Lunch" was a good one, especially as the temps dropped later in the day and slimy turned into ice on some of the hills. We had our own personal trail guide Brian (Gar's son) who rode along with us for part of the day. He was tasked with making sure we didn't get stupid while wandering around the park by ourselves.
Glad to hear you had fun!! It was nice to meet you also.. Hope to see you again at the park
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Nice meeting you too, and looking forward to another trip back up there in the spring!
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Old January 3rd, 2011, 09:56 AM   #192
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looks like josh did a good job at fixing it for the next guy to me. lol
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Old January 3rd, 2011, 10:10 AM   #193
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Well- We'll have to update what happens in 9-10 months, a ZJ was trying to mate with an XJ...... Maybe we'll end up with a little Compass!!!

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Old January 3rd, 2011, 10:13 AM   #194
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Old January 3rd, 2011, 04:50 PM   #196
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Frank,
Seriously, that hole is doable. The line is hard to the right and you feel like you are going to slide over on your right side. You have to get your left tires into the middle of the hill to miss the big hole. Plus, it takes a commitment when you attack it.

Edit, well, maybe not after watching the vid of Josh babying it and digging it out.

And for the record, a trail should never be "fixed" just because some people can't make it. There is no way any park should have all of their trails doable. There should always be something that makes you want to go bigger or badder.

Just pull the cable if you need to.

i get the not fix it part. i can agree with you there.

i got no issue pulling cable. ill pull cable over flipping backward down a hill anyday! this is not doable by my rig currently. i doubt your would do it either.
you got the horsepower to do it i think, i definatly do not.
it would take more tire(47"s,49"s?) and a high speed run at it.
i just dont see anyone crawling it right now.
the the front wall of it gets knocked down a bit from use, it would be doable. the hill aint that steep, but mix in a large hole and high speed??
a rig could get very front end light quickly.

be fun to watch some drivers try though.

i got to fix my junk b4 i return to try.
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i get the not fix it part. i can agree with you there.

i got no issue pulling cable. ill pull cable over flipping backward down a hill anyday! this is not doable by my rig currently. i doubt your would do it either.
you got the horsepower to do it i think, i definatly do not.
it would take more tire(47"s,49"s?) and a high speed run at it.
i just dont see anyone crawling it right now.
the the front wall of it gets knocked down a bit from use, it would be doable. the hill aint that steep, but mix in a large hole and high speed??
a rig could get very front end light quickly.

be fun to watch some drivers try though.

i got to fix my junk b4 i return to try.
I ran it 2 months ago in the lead of our group. So did the 6 guys behind me, all members of SMRC. All on 39-42" tires. No buggies. No high speed, just good spotting and taking the right line. I tried hitting it head on using lots of horsepower.......... didn't work. But when I listened to my spotters, got lined up right, up we came. Left front tire was in the air but up we came. After we figured out the line, all the other guys came right up. Anyone who tried the straight on approach didn't make it.

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I ran it 2 months ago in the lead of our group. So did the 6 guys behind me, all members of SMRC. All on 39-42" tires. No buggies. No high speed, just good spotting and taking the right line. I tried hitting it head on using lots of horsepower.......... didn't work. But when I listened to my spotters, got lined up right, up we came. Left front tire was in the air but up we came. After we figured out the line, all the other guys came right up. Anyone who tried the straight on approach didn't make it.
So I'm trying to picture this. You'd have to start going up on the left and then cut hard to the right before the big hole and hopefully not getting hung up on the roots of the tree that sits on the right? We were there in October and there were about five of us trying to spot Jared (Unlimited Offroad) up the hill and we never did find the right line for him.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 02:44 AM   #199
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It must have changed since u been there Jim, I tride different lines but it was so snotty I just slid back to the one that didn't work. You are going to cost me $$$$$ cause now I want to go try again lol
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yeah that is a tough spot, every time i have been up there that ledge is dug out more and more. makes it interesting every time.
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