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Old November 20th, 2010, 11:18 AM   #1
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I am looking for a front axle that can run stock parts. I originally wanted to chop down a ford dana 44 HP to waggy width. I have a trussed 8.8 in the back and would like something stronger than the 44. I want to run 36-37s with 5.13s. I don't want to run full width. I think a 609 or 449 would be sweet but that's lots of $$$ and not anywhere near stock parts. Maybe I'm kidding myself and the 44 is the best option that wont cost me too much coin. Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 11:22 AM   #2
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a 44 with cromo shafts and 300m u-joints would be strong enough for 36-37or throw in a toyota hp and get longfeilds or dirty 30's and you can run 38-40's all day. I dont know what your putting it in but toyotas are p/s drop.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 11:46 AM   #3
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should have mentioned this is goin in a xj so I need driver side drop. You think a yota front is stronger than a 44? I hardly see those for sale but maybe I am not looking in the right place.

Just seen you have rockwells going in.....not looking for something quite that big :).
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Old November 20th, 2010, 11:50 AM   #4
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yota axles are junk
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HP D30 with D44 internals and RCV shafts, done. You can run 37's all day.
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HP D30 with D44 internals and RCV shafts, done. You can run 37's all day.
by that do you mean a 30 spline kit? Stil end up with unit bearings. Seems like a locked 30 ring and pinion wouldn't last long. I did see a company is making a 513 for the 30 but that pinion is tiny.
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all a waste of money.....
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by that do you mean a 30 spline kit? Stil end up with unit bearings. Seems like a locked 30 ring and pinion wouldn't last long. I did see a company is making a 513 for the 30 but that pinion is tiny.
Google over on Pirate. But use RCV shafts.

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It depends on how you drive it and what you drive it in
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dana 60 is the best way to go
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just figure how much you will spend on good shafts and joints and that will easily pay for a 1 ton front..do it right the first time and you will not regret it.
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I'm not aware of any 60s that are not full width or stock shafts I could use if cut down. I would love a 60 though.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 01:26 PM   #13
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You'll probably end up spending almost this much if you have to get any custom shafts anyway. Just go for it.

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[QUOTE=jeepitupyo;2429751]You'll probably end up spending almost this much if you have to get any custom shafts anyway. Just go for it.

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shoot $$$. I can build something for less than that. I better have a 609 under the rig for that kind of coin.
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Endless research has brought me back to a ford HP 44 cut to waggy width... 609s are just too price and I think the 44 will handle 37s okay.
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85-91 kingpin or a 92-97 ball joint ford hp60 but down ~5" on just the long side to make it 64" wms and you can get the shaft resplined for ~$70 and everything fits nice.

Hp44 is a waste unless running a 4 banger, just run a hp30


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why do you say the 44 is a waste unless you have a 4 banger? I would eventually like to have a small block. D60s are hard to find for a decent price. where can I get shafts resplined for 70 bucks? I would imagine that would be heat treated as well.
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hp30 only goes down to 4:88's so if you need/want 5:13 or 5:38's then a hp44 is the way to go. The weak point it the same for either axle the axle joint.

Don't even mess with half ton stuff with 37's and a small block do it right the first time.

There are deals out there you just have to keep your eye open.

Moser Engineering, last I checked was $65 might of gone up plus shipping there and back is not expensive. No you do not heat treat again.

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well right now I do have the 2.5 thats why I want to go deep gearing. Maybe I will hold out and narrow a 60 but it will make my 8.8 in the back look silly.
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