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Old August 12th, 2006, 11:37 PM   #1
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Default 8th of November..............

Damn good song. I know the CD's been out for a year, but I hear the song on the radio all the time lately................and its an awesome song. The most meaningful song to come out in a while.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 12:14 AM   #2
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Old August 13th, 2006, 12:23 AM   #3
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Old August 13th, 2006, 01:13 AM   #4
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Yup, very good song!!
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Old August 13th, 2006, 08:02 AM   #5
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Just out of curiosity, do you know the true story from the 8th of November? Just thought I'd ask.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 08:27 AM   #6
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No more than I hear from the song. Please explain.




awesome song
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Old August 13th, 2006, 10:14 AM   #7
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Damn good song


Can't wait for CMUjeeper to chime in and insult all the Vietnam vets too


Please tell the full story of the song.. I know that song doesn't cover nearly anything about what really happened and now we all want to know
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Old August 13th, 2006, 10:39 AM   #8
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From wikipedia:

On 05 Nov 1965 the 173rd Airborne Brigade initiated "Operation Hump", a reconnaissance in force in an area about 15 miles north of Bien Hoa. The 1st Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment, deployed south of the Dong Nai River while the 1st Battalion, 503rd Infantry, conducted a helicopter assault on a LZ northwest of the Dong Nai and Song Be Rivers. Little contact was made through 07 Nov, when B and C Companies settled into a night defensive position southeast of Hill 65, a triple-canopy jungled hill.

At about 0600 on the morning of 08 Nov, C Company began a move northwest toward Hill 65, while B Company moved northeast toward Hill 78. Shortly before 0800, C Company was engaged by a sizable enemy force well dug in to the southern face of Hill 65. At 0845, B Company was directed to wheel in place and proceed toward Hill 65 with the intention of relieving C Company.

B Company reached the foot of Hill 65 at about 0930 and moved up the hill. Three things soon became obvious:

1- There was a very large enemy force in place on the hill;
2- C Company was getting hammered; and
3- By chance, B Company was forcing the enemy's right flank.
Under pressure from B Company's flanking attack the enemy force - most of an NVA regiment - moved to the northwest, whereupon the B Company commander called in air and artillery fires on the retreating troops. B Company halted in place in an effort to locate and consolidate with C Company's platoons, managing to establish a coherent defensive line running around the hilltop from southeast to northwest, but with little cover on the southern side.

Meanwhile, the NVA commander realized that his best chance was to close with the US soldiers so that the 173rd's air and artillery fire could not be effectively employed. He attempted to out-flank the US position atop the hill from both the east and the southwest, moving his troops closer to the Americans. The result was shoulder-to-shoulder attacks up the hillside, hand-to-hand fighting, and isolation of parts of B and C Companies ... but the Americans held against two such attacks. Although the fighting continued after the second massed attack, it reduced in intensity as the NVA commander again attempted to disengage and withdraw. By late afternoon it seemed that contact had been broken off by the enemy, allowing the two companies to prepare a night defensive position while collecting their dead and wounded in the center of the position. Although a few of the most seriously wounded were extracted by USAF helicopters using Stokes litters, the triple-canopy jungle prevented the majority from being evacuated until the morning of 09 Nov.

The result of the battle was heavy losses on both sides - 50 Skytroopers dead, many more wounded, and 403 dead NVA troops.

Operation Hump is memorialized in a song by Big and Rich named "8th of November".
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Old August 13th, 2006, 10:41 AM   #9
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Just out of curiosity, do you know the true story from the 8th of November? Just thought I'd ask.

I knew only what the song says and from a few interviews from Big and Rich telling of meeting the man the wrote the song about. Last night I wanted to know a little more and did some searches, what I posted above is about all I could find on a short search.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 02:31 PM   #10
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Artist/Band: Big & Rich
Lyrics for Song: 8th of November
Lyrics for Album: Comin' To Your City
He said goodbye to his momma
As he left South Dakota
To fight for the Red, White, and Blue
He was 19 in green with a new M-16
Just doin' what he had to do.

He was dropped in the jungle
Where the choppers would rumble
With the smell of napalm in the air
Then the sargeant said, "Look up ahead"

And like a dark, evil cloud
1,200 came down
on him and 29 more
They fought for their lives
But most of them died
In the 173rd Airborne

(Chorus)
On the 8th of November,
The angels were cryin'
As they carried his brothers away
With the fire rainin' down
And the Hell all around
There were few men left standin' that day
Saw the eagle fly,
Through a clear, blue sky
1965, the 8th of November

Now hes 58
And his ponytails grey
But the battle still plays in his head
He limps when he walks,
But hes strong when he talks
About the shrapnel they left in leg

He puts on a grey suit
Over his airborne tattoo
He ties it on one time a year
And remembers the fallen,
As he orders a tall one
And swallows it down with his tears

(Chorus)
On the 8th of November,
The angels were cryin'
As they carried his brothers away
With the fire rainin' down
And the Hell all around
There were few men left standin' that day
Saw the eagle fly,
Through a clear, blue sky
1965, the 8th of November

Saw the eagle fly,
Through a clear, blue sky
1965

(Chorus)
On the 8th of November,
The angels were cryin'
As they carried his brothers away
With the fire rainin' down
And the Hell all around
There were few men left standin' that day

(Chorus)
On the 8th of November,
The angels were cryin'
As they carried his brothers away
With the fire rainin' down
And the Hell all around
There were few men left standin' that day
Saw the eagle fly,
Through a clear, blue sky
1965, the 8th of November

The 8th of November
The 8th of November

He said goodbye to his momma
As he left South Dakota
To fight for the Red, White, and Blue
He was 19 in green with a new M-16
Just doin' what he had to do.


http://www.musicvideocodes.biz/song_..._November.html
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Old August 13th, 2006, 02:36 PM   #11
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That video is making a climb on the CMT top 20.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 03:11 PM   #12
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In the beginning of the radio edit. Chris Christopherson says

"Greater love hath no man then to lay down his life for his brother"

These words have a lot of personal meaning to me right now.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 08:28 PM   #13
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Some of the parts that the song left out were these. They didn't sing about LCPL Tiny Parker, who was wounded from close range by vietcong machine gun fire. His body was pinned down in the open, and used like bait by the VC, who sniped and shot at, anyone who tried to help him. Private Peter Gibson was wounded by machine gun fire from less than 15 meters away while trying to advance during the fight. Wounded, he continued fighting to keep his machine gun from falling into enemy hands, until he could fight no more. Sgt Fawcett tried to reach Gibson and was turned back each time by the heavy enemy fire that would stitch Gibsons body.
The company made a withdrawal as darkness fell, and artillery support began hitting the area. They had several intense firefights on the way out, and were unable to retrieve the bodies of Parker and Gibson.
They were forced to leave their fellow soldiers behind, something they had to live with.

'Nuff said, sorry I hijacked your thread.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 08:40 PM   #14
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They were forced to leave their fellow soldiers behind, something they had to live with..

Yes this is hard for them to live with. I have the most respect for them and what the did for us and every thing that every one does for us now.

Tim Magraw said it best when he introdoced a song about one of his freinds that is serveing. "no mater what your political beliefs and republican democrate liberal you have to suport or troops for they are the reason we are free"

Thank you Tim Magraw
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Old August 14th, 2006, 12:07 AM   #15
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Can't wait for CMUjeeper to chime in and insult all the Vietnam vets too
Why would I insult anyone that died and especially someone that died in vain? I should just start posting something like, "can't wait for SS to chime in with some 18 year old bull shit" Everyone gives me shit for my views because I'm young and in college so I guess I'm them and you are me in a way and maybe I can see where they are comming from for once.

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Old August 14th, 2006, 10:26 AM   #16
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Some of the parts that the song left out were these. They didn't sing about LCPL Tiny Parker, who was wounded from close range by vietcong machine gun fire. His body was pinned down in the open, and used like bait by the VC, who sniped and shot at, anyone who tried to help him. Private Peter Gibson was wounded by machine gun fire from less than 15 meters away while trying to advance during the fight. Wounded, he continued fighting to keep his machine gun from falling into enemy hands, until he could fight no more. Sgt Fawcett tried to reach Gibson and was turned back each time by the heavy enemy fire that would stitch Gibsons body.
The company made a withdrawal as darkness fell, and artillery support began hitting the area. They had several intense firefights on the way out, and were unable to retrieve the bodies of Parker and Gibson.
They were forced to leave their fellow soldiers behind, something they had to live with.

'Nuff said, sorry I hijacked your thread.
Iceman, you arent hijacking anything....I knew the discusion of the song would lead to more, thanks for posting that.


Romey, I understand why that means something to you............and the Kris K. intro of that song is great.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 01:18 PM   #17
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Damn good song true


Can't wait for CMUjeeper to chime in and insult all the Vietnam vets too comment made due to http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...penis+syndrome


Please tell the full story of the song.. I know that song doesn't cover nearly anything about what really happened and now we all want to know do you really want to know or are you just trying to look that way...cuz instead of wasting someone elses google time, ya could have done it yourself.
See how annoying needless bashing is?
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Old August 14th, 2006, 10:19 PM   #18
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See how annoying needless bashing is?
I can't tell who you're bashing with that second one since CMU is always talking about buying a Porsche...

...and you can see the difference in information between what Roadhouse Googled and what Iceman knew. It was not time wasted.
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...and you can see the difference in information between what Roadhouse Googled and what Iceman knew. It was not time wasted.
Yes, I can, and thats a good point, but I think you missed mine. I wasn't really bashing him (ok, ok, the penis thing was...), I agree with most of his points - except that he goes about it the wrong way - he does it just to fight. cmujeeper is going to have his own opinions which he is intitled to. why try to bash or change his mind at every turn? I was just showing a similar annoying (and incorrect as you point out) response to try to see it from someone elses perspective. Will it work?...prolly not.

edit: guess I should say, it wasnt just about things made in this thread. You can't say something to a person (like implying a confrontation with a gun at a family event) and expect it to not reflect on you later. I know cmu has done the same, but at least I know in the end he means well. Not sure about this other guy...

cliffnotes: stop making ya nimrods - ya know you're different, just accept it and stop reminding each other.

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Why would I insult anyone that died and especially someone that died in vain?
What you will never understand is they didn't die in vain. They died protecting each other. The politics and the bullshit didn't matter over there, getting home was the priority, and protecting your brothers in arms. You try never to leave anyone behind.

I don't expect you to understand this, it is something that can't be explained. If you ever get the chance to watch the movie "We were Soldiers", a good friend of mine (who now lives in Mexico) was one of the few who came home from that firefight (off the hill).

If you have never been there, please refrain from making comments on the Military, and those who serve.
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