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Old August 30th, 2010, 02:18 PM   #1
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I need someone to build me the cylinder and handle following this design:

http://www.skibuilders.com/howto/equip/edgebender.shtml

I'll compile the other hardwear and put it together but don't have the capability to build the cylinder and handle.

I need one for now... and at least one more once I check out the work and make sure it's what I want. It could also turn into the chance for someone to build quite a few pieces them for me, could be a good way to make some extra money.

Please send me a PM with a price, or point me to your buddy who could do this. Thanks.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 02:33 PM   #2
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Nice write-up!!! Let me see if my partner wants to do something like this..... I'll get back to you tomorrow,,,,
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Old August 30th, 2010, 02:45 PM   #3
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Sweet, thanks. If it's in the Grand Rapids/Holland/Muskegon area we can just pick it up and not have to worry about shipping.
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I do this kind of stuff for a living. Honestly, the entire handle thing is not doing anything really significant other than keeping the material on edge. The whole point of the handle is to smoothly wrap it around, but if your holding it with your hands on the back side, then the pressure required to bend it must be very small.

Ultra cheap, put two pins in a hunk of wood and bend it by hand a small section at a time.

That linked design gives a washed out bend, a gradually tighter bend, not uniform. If you came up with a back side pinch point (c-clamp, bolt, etc) you could get much nicer results.

Think brake line tubing bender.

Just my .02! Good luck!
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Old August 31st, 2010, 09:25 PM   #5
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I do this kind of stuff for a living. Honestly, the entire handle thing is not doing anything really significant other than keeping the material on edge. The whole point of the handle is to smoothly wrap it around, but if your holding it with your hands on the back side, then the pressure required to bend it must be very small.

Ultra cheap, put two pins in a hunk of wood and bend it by hand a small section at a time.

That linked design gives a washed out bend, a gradually tighter bend, not uniform. If you came up with a back side pinch point (c-clamp, bolt, etc) you could get much nicer results.

Think brake line tubing bender.

Just my .02! Good luck!
Well, the idea is that I need to keep the steel edges flat while I bend them. The material is an "L" shape, which is where the edge of the cylinder comes in handy because the "!" part of the material rides on top of the tool and stays flat while the "_" is bent into the shape. If you get into something like the two pins there's a lot of room for error with just twisting the steel in your hands, if I understand what you mean.

I hear you on the pressure and holding it it your hands. It would be a good idea to include some kind of mount where I can bolt it to my workbench. The stuff is pretty tough.

I don't entirely understand what you mean about the "washed out" bend, could explain a bit more? I need to form some different radius bends along the ski..

Thanks.
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My dad has a sheet metal shop and has a lot of connections. i am sure he could get it done but your pretty far.
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My dad has a sheet metal shop and has a lot of connections. i am sure he could get it done but your pretty far.
I don't have a problem paying for shipping. If you could ask around I'd appreciate it, thanks!
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I don't have a problem paying for shipping. If you could ask around I'd appreciate it, thanks!
i will have him take a look at this.
I will get back to you.
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I don't entirely understand what you mean about the "washed out" bend, could explain a bit more? I need to form some different radius bends along the ski..

Thanks.
If the material is stiff enough, it will probably be fine (which it sounds like it might be). However, if the material is too soft so support itself, or keep itself from bending except right at your radius, then it will have a washed out look. You would have a nice tight exact radius where it came in contact with the tool and then where it wasn't on the tool, for a few inches away, it will have arced a bit because nothing was there for support.

You probably are going to be fine if someone already used it and had good luck, but I was forced to add my input because I see a problem with the design!

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25-30 for steel
1.5 hours to turn and drill/tap bore round
.5 for handle
10 for bearings and bolts

If shop rate is at $75, your looking at $190. Find someone with the steel and a lower rate, could only be less.
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