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Old August 25th, 2010, 06:13 PM   #1
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i have been thinking about building a 4 wheel steer buggy and i got a dana rear axle that i want to convert, what are some pros and cons. its a semi floater with the c clips if i didnt do the steering axle is there a kit or something to eliminate the c clips.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 01:22 PM   #2
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Rear steer isnt worth the hassles. Shoot for 40 degrees or more on the front and you're good to go. And if you insist on rear steer; dont waste your time with anything less than dana 60 sized components.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 01:56 PM   #3
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Rear steer isnt worth the hassles.
I think you need to know the intended use by the thread starter before a claim like that...
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Old August 26th, 2010, 03:22 PM   #4
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Unlimited class werock is about the only place I could see it needed and people like Shannon Campbell and Tracy Jordan have shown it doesn't really matter all that much.

If you are set on it then you want it for other reasons than the curiosity. As a whole, I think it's more hassle than the perks are worth. Compromised suspension geometry, always wondering if it's turned or worrying about bumping it at speed, etc.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 03:57 PM   #5
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ok thats what i was thinking the only reason i was looking into that was because i have a dana 60 sf with the c clips that hold the axle shafts in. so if it breaks the shafts are coming out, i looked on ballistic and they sell spindles for 14 bolt axles and i was looking into that more now it seems a little easier and less complicated. i really wanted to do the rear steer just to try something new but it was just an idea. with the spindles from ballistic and some junk yard parts i could build a 14 bolt axle, open to buying one if someone has one.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 04:07 PM   #6
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Rear steer is awesome, and it sucks.

Good:

Maneuverability
Cool factor

Bad:

Cost
Added weight
Lots more parts
Strength
Complexity
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Old August 26th, 2010, 04:16 PM   #7
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helpful i think i will run this free dana 60 until i break it and then upgrade then
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Old August 26th, 2010, 04:17 PM   #8
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I have some 14 bolt spindles laying around for cheap

Rear steer is twice as much as a well built front axle, and there is a fix for the not knowing if it is centered problem

Only reason I am doing it is because of length of the jeep and wheelbase.
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I have some 14 bolt spindles laying around for cheap

Rear steer is twice as much as a well built front axle, and there is a fix for the not knowing if it is centered problem

Only reason I am doing it is because of length of the jeep and wheelbase.
whats ur wheel base mine new tube chassis is going to be around 115 to 120
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Rear steer is awesome, and it sucks.

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Speaking of him, where did he go?
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whats ur wheel base mine new tube chassis is going to be around 115 to 120
130ish
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damn that is a long wheelbase
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there is a fix for the not knowing if it is centered problem
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Staz works is one company that makes a self centering setup, there is plans out there to build your own and some have built indicators on the dash to show where the rear is also.
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He's still around. I haven't talked to him but all the stickers are off of his ram and I think he just got the bed replaced. I saw it at the body shop down the road from his house. The "RHINOZJ" hasn't left his driveway in weeks.
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