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Old August 11th, 2010, 08:34 PM   #21
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I have a 96 cummins with a 5 speed manual and I love it but I would have never bought one with an automatic, or any diesel with an auto. I think the Cummins would be easier to lift since it has a solid axle. I have ridden in a Duramax and it rode a lot nicer than my cummins and was way faster. The Duramax was just too exspensive and I couldn't find one with a manual.
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Old August 11th, 2010, 09:06 PM   #22
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very good points here amd i would like to add to that, the cummins is a great motor but the rest of the truck is crap. they are not comfortable to ride in and they drive like shit, the d-max is the way to go in my opinion, ive driven many and i own a superduty powerstroke and love that and its cheaper than the two you are lookin at, but if i were to buy another truck i would definetly buy a duramax
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duramax. dodge trucks are shit.
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go with a powerstroke! if not a powerstroke go with the duramax...anything but the cummins
You are a fucking moron.
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I'm happy with my duramax, I wouldnt change a thing about it except for the completely useless front suspension. I'm really wondering what the guys do that use them to plow. I cant imagine any of the steering components lasting through more than one winter.
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I'm happy with my duramax, I wouldnt change a thing about it except for the completely useless front suspension. I'm really wondering what the guys do that use them to plow. I cant imagine any of the steering components lasting through more than one winter.
They usually put aftermarket suspension parts on... whole bunch of goodies to be had for our dmaxs ! News parts let me know



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go with a powerstroke! if not a powerstroke go with the duramax...anything but the cummins
Must of bumped your head on the way into the stealership! I'll give you that the old 7.3 was a beast , after that Ford fell out of the diesel market . There engine blow.... literally blow flames out the tailpipe , and head studs that fail you under normal conditions .

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if i went duramax i would buy tierod sleeves and the shock hoop and shocks to add more cushion to the front. i am lookin at the full front end of the duramax and see what i have to upgrade. tie rod size of my pinky
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They usually put aftermarket suspension parts on... whole bunch of goodies to be had for our dmaxs ! News parts let me know
I'm aware of what's available for the trucks. I made tie rod sleeves for mine and had them on in the first couple months of owning it. The design still sucks with all of the upgrades on it, there is just too much movement of the components.

One day mine will get a solid axle swap and 2" lift, that's the only way around it and it's about the same cost as all the upgrades needed on that front end.
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Old September 11th, 2010, 12:59 PM   #31
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Seriously.. its like riding a motorcycle.. you find the one that you feel the most comfortable on.. you can change everything else.. opinions are opinions.. statistically the cummins engine and trans will last longer then the others.. duramax isn't to bad but very week when adding power.. if you upgrade the turbo you will lift the heads on it.. or while running and aggressive tune..the bottom end with come out.. the allison is strong but not as much as dodge 48RE..serious duramax racers switch to the 48RE becuase of strength and it shifts faster.. powerstrokes.. well ford's tow good but cmon they have more issues than you can imagine.. the filtration system is so bad replacing injectors will be your life... unless you leave it stock and change the oil every 2500 miles.. but the trans is very stout.. if you want engine reliability buy a cummins..easy to maintain and modify.. stay away from junk tuners.. something decent and safe would be an Edge Juice with attitude or the new CTS.. plus all the guages you can display with it..and again its personal opinion.. I drag race a 06 cummins.. and I'm a cummins mechanic.. they all have their ups and downs.. get what you want.. cuz you can change everything drivetrain wise...
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Doesn't matter. I prefer the Duramax because of the interiors and reliability. But I would much rather have a Cummins if I were going for just a race truck. For chips, I would go EFI Live, or Quadzilla. But before you go on adding tons of horse power you want to get a built trans and rear end....
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Don't by a Duramax for reliability... thats for sure...
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there are no duramax diesels at the tractor pulls. somthing to think about. A friend of mine has a 06 5.9 cummins puttin out 600+hp and over 1100+ ft lbs. It is friggin fast and can haul anything, but he has allready blow then trans, but hell it was factory, so what can you expect?

My ideal truck for all around use would be a ford with a cummins in it.

The duramax is nice, but I would only put it in something i was building for speed.
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Don't by a Duramax for reliability... thats for sure...
Did you have injector issues and get stranded? Or is the 200k mile warranty not good enough?

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there are no duramax diesels at the tractor pulls. somthing to think about. A friend of mine has a 06 5.9 cummins puttin out 600+hp and over 1100+ ft lbs. It is friggin fast and can haul anything, but he has allready blow then trans, but hell it was factory, so what can you expect?
Yes, because tractor pulls are what set a good truck above the rest.
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there are no duramax diesels at the tractor pulls. somthing to think about. A friend of mine has a 06 5.9 cummins puttin out 600+hp and over 1100+ ft lbs. It is friggin fast and can haul anything, but he has allready blow then trans, but hell it was factory, so what can you expect?

My ideal truck for all around use would be a ford with a cummins in it.

The duramax is nice, but I would only put it in something i was building for speed.
Yeah I am confused also because when I was at the Armada county fair this summer their was 2 Fords and the rest where Cummins and Duramax's. Their where at least 5 Duramax. Also the Best pull of the night was from a Duramax called Dirty Hooker. So not sure where your watching truck pulls.
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there are no duramax diesels at the tractor pulls. somthing to think about. A friend of mine has a 06 5.9 cummins puttin out 600+hp and over 1100+ ft lbs. It is friggin fast and can haul anything, but he has allready blow then trans, but hell it was factory, so what can you expect?

My ideal truck for all around use would be a ford with a cummins in it.

The duramax is nice, but I would only put it in something i was building for speed.
Funny every one i have been to this year had more D-maxs than i have ever seen. The power stroke is becoming a thing of the past now. Most of the fords have cummins diesels in them anyhow. What ever i love my cummins and hate the wraper it came it, but at least it has a solid axle up front and i can work on it.
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Dmax all the way, no doubt.

They have every bit as much power, reliability, and towing capability as a Cummins, despite the popular opinion that the Cummins is the all-owning, indestructible, super powerful engine. And the Allison transmission actually lasts, unlike the Dodge. Chevy actually builds a nice truck around their engine, unlike Dodge.

In response to the comment above about canned tuners, yes, its no secret that EFI live tuning is the best IF THE TUNER KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING. But if you just want a 100-ish horse tune to help with mileage and tuning, there are several tuners out there that work very well for a fraction of the price of EFI live.

If you're looking for a dmax, I suggest the LBZ (06.5 - 07.5 model year). Its the post powerful and has no emissions on it, unless the LMM that replaced it. They are all great engines, but each has their little issue they are known for. The only one that isn't easily fixed are the LB7's injectors.

But yes, as mentioned, it all comes down to personal opinion. They are both good trucks, and obviously some people prefer one for the other for their own reasons.
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Don't by a Duramax for reliability... thats for sure...
How do you form opinions like that? There are thousands of dmaxes out there now with 200,000 - 300,000+ miles, most of which have had very little maintenance. The reliability on these trucks is great. Every vehicle can/will have little issues from time to time, but generally speaking, the dmax-equipped vehicles are very reliable.

There are some people frustrated with the IFS, but there are even more who drive them for year and years without replacing a single component or having a single problem. If you're bombing down dirt roads, beating on it off road, want big lift / tires, and routinely pounding the hell out of it, then IFS may not be for you. But for most people, the smooth highway ride of IFS is great and problem-free. Most people on the forums see 150,000 before needs to do any front end service. In that much mileage, the Ford guys are probably on the 4th set of ball joints on their "superior" solid axle front end.




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How do you form opinions like that? There are thousands of dmaxes out there now with 200,000 - 300,000+ miles, most of which have had very little maintenance. The reliability on these trucks is great. Every vehicle can/will have little issues from time to time, but generally speaking, the dmax-equipped vehicles are very reliable.

There are some people frustrated with the IFS, but there are even more who drive them for year and years without replacing a single component or having a single problem. If you're bombing down dirt roads, beating on it off road, want big lift / tires, and routinely pounding the hell out of it, then IFS may not be for you. But for most people, the smooth highway ride of IFS is great and problem-free. Most people on the forums see 150,000 before needs to do any front end service. In that much mileage, the Ford guys are probably on the 4th set of ball joints on their "superior" solid axle front end.




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What do you expect? He's a Cummins mechanic and also races one. Of coarse his opinion is going to be extremely biased
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