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Old August 9th, 2010, 12:40 PM   #1
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So back in the Reagan days, our government/CIA proved that they are more than willing to support brutal regimes and destroy reformist regimes for the purpose of importing drugs to pay for things the American people already siad they didn't want (Iran Contra).

So now we're in Afghanistan, the source of the vast majority of the world's heroin, with a huge military force the purpose of which is to stop/block terrorist activities, which just happened to be funded in large part by the heroin trade. Now, based on the scale of our military forces, their locations that would be right in the path of such exportations, we find that heroin exportation from the region to the rest of the world (especially the U.S.) has hit an all time high. How are they are able to accomplish this?

Hmmmmmm....
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Old August 9th, 2010, 12:43 PM   #2
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So back in the Reagan days, our government/CIA proved that they are more than willing to support brutal regimes and destroy reformist regimes for the purpose of importing drugs to pay for things the American people already siad they didn't want (Iran Contra).

So now we're in Afghanistan, the source of the vast majority of the world's heroin, with a huge military force the purpose of which is to stop/block terrorist activities, which just happened to be funded in large part by the heroin trade. Now, based on the scale of our military forces, their locations that would be right in the path of such exportations, we find that heroin exportation from the region to the rest of the world (especially the U.S.) has hit an all time high. How are they are able to accomplish this?

Hmmmmmm....
Our presence has forced them to find alternate ways to get thier stuff across. In the process is it that hard to believe they may have found a better way? People sometimes thrive under pressure.
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Our presence has forced them to find alternate ways to get thier stuff across. In the process is it that hard to believe they may have found a better way? People sometimes thrive under pressure.


Seriously L4... Look at a map and tell me they found a better way...

You CAN'T be that naive. No way. You are jumping to defend something you don't demonstrate much knowledge about.
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Seriously L4... Look at a map and tell me they found a better way...

You CAN'T be that naive. No way. You are jumping to defend something you don't demonstrate much knowledge about.
I wasn't defending them. I was merely stating fact. Advances are often birthed by hard times. I'm not saying they have, I'm just saying the very well could have found a better way.
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So back in the Reagan days, our government/CIA proved that they are more than willing to support brutal regimes and destroy reformist regimes for the purpose of importing drugs to pay for things the American people already siad they didn't want (Iran Contra).

So now we're in Afghanistan, the source of the vast majority of the world's heroin, with a huge military force the purpose of which is to stop/block terrorist activities, which just happened to be funded in large part by the heroin trade. Now, based on the scale of our military forces, their locations that would be right in the path of such exportations, we find that heroin exportation from the region to the rest of the world (especially the U.S.) has hit an all time high. How are they are able to accomplish this?

Hmmmmmm....


Comparing Reagan days to Oblabla days


Hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old August 9th, 2010, 04:24 PM   #7
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Comparing Reagan days to Oblabla days


Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Obama should do what Reagan did for illegal immigrants.
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Old August 9th, 2010, 04:33 PM   #8
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Even on a good day oblabla could not compare to Reagan
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Even on a good day oblabla could not compare to Reagan
Pfff....Reagan, I wish he could compare to the good ole' days of Clinton.
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Pfff....Reagan, I wish he could compare to the good ole' days of Clinton.
lol or even the bad days of clinton
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I wasn't defending them. I was merely stating fact. Advances are often birthed by hard times. I'm not saying they have, I'm just saying the very well could have found a better way.
Then you weren't "stating fact". The "fact" is that there IS no other way. Look at a map and consider the logistics, not to mention the borders.
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Comparing Reagan days to Oblabla days


Hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old August 13th, 2010, 04:07 PM   #13
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Then you weren't "stating fact". The "fact" is that there IS no other way. Look at a map and consider the logistics, not to mention the borders.
My Statement still stands. Obviously there is a better way. Weather that's corrupt troops (which I'm not saying there is), or some other non-map way.
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My Statement still stands. Obviously there is a better way. Weather that's corrupt troops (which I'm not saying there is), or some other non-map way.
Okay, so your statement, based on my assertions, didn't sound as though it considered the possibility of U.S. involvement. Now you do. Still, I don't think it's the troops anymore than it was in Iran Contra. I think it's like it was then in that the CIA is running it, using civilian pilots protected by U.S. military. One of the huge benefits of having private contractors like Blackwater.

Still, I don't see anyone commenting on this, just trying to find something bad to say about Obama. I would bet he is as involved as Reagan was in Iran Contra.......
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We don't need to look to far to find fault with obama,, like were do we start? oil spill, golf, oil spill, vacation, oil spill, fund raiser, Iran, nuclear material to start the plant for electricity(plutonium)
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You're all pretty naieve if anything like this surprises you, pretty much the sole purpose of government is to make money (at least that's what it has turned into). How much money do you thing the US government, along with a dozen other nations, is making on drug traficking and arms dealing, and the sort.

aber- I'm definitally no Obama fan, but what possible rationale could you have to say that the gulf oil spill is Obama's fault? Your just like the morons that said global warming was Bush's fault. along with Hurrican Katrina....it's obsurd to say that things of that size and nature are one president's fault, not to mention the fault of any one society or group.

....though for the sake of arugment; it's Obama's fault, kick his a** out of office!
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You're all pretty naieve if anything like this surprises you, pretty much the sole purpose of government is to make money (at least that's what it has turned into). How much money do you thing the US government, along with a dozen other nations, is making on drug traficking and arms dealing, and the sort.

aber- I'm definitally no Obama fan, but what possible rationale could you have to say that the gulf oil spill is Obama's fault? Your just like the morons that said global warming was Bush's fault. along with Hurrican Katrina....it's obsurd to say that things of that size and nature are one president's fault, not to mention the fault of any one society or group.

....though for the sake of arugment; it's Obama's fault, kick his a** out of office!
I was by no means blaming obama for the oil spill. I was making the comment of how little he did. He did say that he would not rest until the well head was sealed and the oil spill cleaned up. Then he went golfing and vacation and goofed around, but he did spend four days thier walking the beach. He also denied help from other nations to aid in the cleanup.
Besides wasn't it Al Gore's fault for global warming
Obama does need to go and it is his lack of leadership and not knowing what to do is a crisis.
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I was by no means blaming obama for the oil spill. I was making the comment of how little he did. He did say that he would not rest until the well head was sealed and the oil spill cleaned up. Then he went golfing and vacation and goofed around, but he did spend four days thier walking the beach. He also denied help from other nations to aid in the cleanup.
Besides wasn't it Al Gore's fault for global warming
Obama does need to go and it is his lack of leadership and not knowing what to do is a crisis.
Wait wait wait....

I thought you guys were opposed to government intervention. I thought you guys wanted LESS government. I thought you guys defended Bush for doing NOTHING about the laws Clinton passed that got us in this financial crisis. What gives?
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I think his main point was that Obama says one thing and then does another. Not to mention turning down help from those that have the tools and experience to deal with the problem is just stupid.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 08:24 PM   #20
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Our presents in the middle east has nothing to do with the drug trade, weapons of mass destruction, liberating an oppresed people or any such stupid shit you are being lied to about on the nightly news.

Our lease on the base in Turkey was over and they were throwing us out.

We have to have a military base in the middle east to provide military defense to the five countries in the opec nations that we have an agreement with since the early 1970's.

If you do not want ot admit it, fine.

We need to secure the natural recourses our economic engine runs on. Oil dummey. Your jeep won't run with out it.
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