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Old August 4th, 2010, 01:51 PM   #41
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Old August 4th, 2010, 02:20 PM   #42
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if they build it I will sell hand drawn pictures of muhammad and allah buttfucking each other right in front of it
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Old August 4th, 2010, 02:21 PM   #43
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If a private person owned the land the Washington monument stood on, they would have the right to tear it down.

However, a private individual does not own that land and it would take an act of Congress for the Federal Government to sell it as it is a National Memorial.

Very bad example.

Now, if a land deal was arranged that sold "normal" federal land to a private individual, he would have the right to develop that property any way he chooses, per local building codes and ordinances.

As for the topic at hand, I agree with CC (hell froze over again). The First amendment can really be a Catch 22.

BTW GM, you are usually pretty well informed, yet this time you assumed the Mosque would be at ground zero. Have you been attending Beck U or something?
The article I read off of MSN yesterday talked about it being on the site. They obviously used that term very loosely.

Now that I know it's a few blocks away I could care less about it.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 02:24 PM   #44
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Most if not all monuments are built on govt land or 100+ year leases, not or private land.

And yes, if someone has the money they can build what they want. Thats why money is so cool and people like it alot.
Ok so it was a bad example.

I'm just torn about if they were actually putting a mosque or anything besides a memorial right on ground zero.

I'm all for doing whatever it is that people want. People should be able to build what they want and where they want. But if someone had the money and wanted to build a mud bog next door to my house I'd be pretty pissed that it was allowed to happen. Hence why we have zoning.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 08:32 PM   #45
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Where the heck is Aber? He could bring teh fun to this thread.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 10:29 PM   #46
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As muslims do when they strike the enemy and win they build a place of worship, as they would say in the belly of the beast.
They are here and for the most part, peaceful, until the day the car bombs start.
Then we will see how our constitution(and the ) aided in helping them destroy us from within our own country.
In shear numbers they will overpopulate as they are doing in European countries now.
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I'm here,
As muslims do when they strike the enemy and win they build a place of worship, as they would say in the belly of the beast.
They are here and for the most part, peaceful, until the day the car bombs start.
Then we will see how our constitution(and the ) aided in helping them destroy us from within our own country.
In shear numbers they will overpopulate as they are doing in European countries now.
Europe has Germans, who go apeshit once or twice per century and they are about overdue...
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That would prolly get your own IED delivered to you in person.

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I don't see the big deal. It's just a building. Just like the Church I go to could just be a Recreational Center that people sing in. Sounds like some people get a little to uppity about things like this.
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As muslims do when they strike the enemy and win they build a place of worship, as they would say in the belly of the beast.
They are here and for the most part, peaceful, until the day the car bombs start.
Then we will see how our constitution(and the ) aided in helping them destroy us from within our own country.
In shear numbers they will overpopulate as they are doing in European countries now.
You never seem to dissapoint with your bullshit. The single most important set of ideals this country has is the constitution and you are saying that it's going to destroy us? So you don't agree with the constitution and the 1st ammendment? I kind of already knew that, seeing as you would probably love a Christian theocracy.

Guys like you are all about waving flags and yelling about freedom, until the freedom is extended to somebody different from you. Did you check in with the new prop 8 thread?
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I do believe in the constitution as you but the way it is set up to give freedom and rights to our enemy will be a problem for us. Thats all I'm saying is the constitution is designed for us in mind not an enemy of ours. If we give rights and freedoms to our enmeies that our constitution has built in it to protect us, then how is it good for us?
As for prop 8... it will get over turned.
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I do believe in the constitution as you but the way it is set up to give freedom and rights to our enemy will be a problem for us. Thats all I'm saying is the constitution is designed for us in mind not an enemy of ours. If we give rights and freedoms to our enmeies that our constitution has built in it to protect us, then how is it good for us?
As for prop 8... it will get over turned.
The constitution protects citizens of the U.S. Those people you think are the enemy, U.S. citizens who follow a different religion than you, have the exact same rights as you. You hate it, don't you? That's because you hate the constitution and the way it was set up. You'd be much more comfortable in a religious theocracy. You should really check out Iran.

BTW, prop 8 has been overturned, that's why I made a thread about it.
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The U.S. constitution has been raped by the democrat-s/liberals like that frog by the chimp.
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As muslims do when they strike the enemy and win they build a place of worship, as they would say in the belly of the beast.




I guess you can say the same about any religion, seeing as they WORSHIP where they live, and historically, you have to fight for the land you live on.


those damn catholics TOOK OVER THE USA when they came here from europe and put up churches everywhere! HOW DARE THEY!



I know, let's just move everybody in the whole world that is religious to an island, like mackinac, or maybe antartica, so us free thinking people can live long, happy lives without worrying about whackos and their made up fantasy worlds that cause them to kill innocent people.
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I guess you can say the same about any religion, seeing as they WORSHIP where they live, and historically, you have to fight for the land you live on.


those damn catholics TOOK OVER THE USA when they came here from europe and put up churches everywhere! HOW DARE THEY!



I know, let's just move everybody in the whole world that is religious to an island, like mackinac, or maybe antartica, so us free thinking people can live long, happy lives without worrying about whackos and their made up fantasy worlds that cause them to kill innocent people.

It may be a fantasy to you but to me my God is real and one day you will also see that. Lets hope you see that before judgement day.
Besides we have been at odds with muslims for hundreds of years and they will not stop until they have control of everything.
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The constitution protects citizens of the U.S. Those people you think are the enemy, U.S. citizens who follow a different religion than you, have the exact same rights as you. You hate it, don't you? That's because you hate the constitution and the way it was set up. You'd be much more comfortable in a religious theocracy. You should really check out Iran.

BTW, prop 8 has been overturned, that's why I made a thread about it.
So the Christmas Day bomber is being protected under our constitution because of your friends, the .
Take a trip to Europe and tell me what you see as the mass of muslims taking over whole sections of cities. Spain is in trouble because they allowed muslims to take over and now people do want to be on the same street as them. People are leaving the country to the muslims and France is next on the list to take over and control.
Your problem Mike is that you just don't get it and being a person that doesn't believe in God you can't see the big picture.
And prop 8, it will get shot down again, it is the people who have spoken and liberal judges make up the rules and then it will go to a vote and the people will vote it down....again.
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It may be a fantasy to you but to me my God is real and one day you will also see that. Lets hope you see that before judgement day.
The good, say the mystics of spirit, is God, a being whose only definition is that he is beyond man's power to conceive- a definition that invalidates man's consciousness and nullifies his concepts of existence...Man's mind, say the mystics of spirit, must be subordinated to the will of God... Man's standard of value, say the mystics of spirit, is the pleasure of God, whose standards are beyond man's power of comprehension and must be accepted on faith....The purpose of man's life...is to become an abject zombie who serves a purpose he does not know, for reasons he is not to question. -The New Intellectual
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As soon as they finish in NY the left wing liberals are going to force a Japanese memorial in Pearl Harbor, then they plan to go to Israel and erect a Nazi memorial with a giant sculpture of Hitler hugging Obama.
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I did hear that Obama apologized to japan yesterday for how we ended WWII
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