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Old March 15th, 2008, 10:37 AM   #41
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Actually I got pulled over hauling another vehicle on that trailer.. I weighed this particular combo up at Lapeer Recy. Center.. There scales are certified.. And as far as the Fuel Mileage.. It tows in overdrive at 65 with no problems.. I used it to tow up to Clare by my parents place.. It normally gets 27mpg on the highway.. Towing that rig minus the mud and all it got 18mpg.. It has a 2.5" exhaust, and a chip. Nothing to exciting.. Only time it kicks outta overdrive is going over the zil. bridge and a couple times over some little hills.. I've been on several road trips to Baker Grade in Cali with these diesels towing 5000lbs with a huge frontal board on the front of the trailer.. They run that grade at 55mph like it isn't even there.. Passing HEMI 1500 rams along the way.
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I question his fuel mileage MUCH mroe then i question the weight he is towing.
I can see how 18mpg would be reasonable. Its a half pint diesel, he's towing 55-65ish cruising all hiway.

If any duramax/cummins/powerstroke can pull 5k load and get 14-16, then 18 should be easy for a vehicle that is a better fit for the load
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Actually I got pulled over hauling another vehicle on that trailer.. I weighed this particular combo up at Lapeer Recy. Center.. There scales are certified.. And as far as the Fuel Mileage.. It tows in overdrive at 65 with no problems.. I used it to tow up to Clare by my parents place.. It normally gets 27mpg on the highway.. Towing that rig minus the mud and all it got 18mpg.. It has a 2.5" exhaust, and a chip. Nothing to exciting.. Only time it kicks outta overdrive is going over the zil. bridge and a couple times over some little hills.. I've been on several road trips to Baker Grade in Cali with these diesels towing 5000lbs with a huge frontal board on the front of the trailer.. They run that grade at 55mph like it isn't even there.. Passing HEMI 1500 rams along the way.
Please post a notice on here whenever you tow that with your minivan that you call a jeep, so myself and my entire family can stay off the road.

You are a jackass, and you are going to kill someone. Please fukc off, go eat a bullet and save an innocent family from a tragic loss.
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Come on. Tell us how you feel. Don't hold back.
People with these inferior little cars have to prove how tough they are, just like the short kid on the playground. Let him rattle on about his toy "jeep", most of us know better.
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Please post a notice on here whenever you tow that with your minivan that you call a jeep, so myself and my entire family can stay off the road.

You are a jackass, and you are going to kill someone. Please fukc off, go eat a bullet and save an innocent family from a tragic loss.
No Problem.. I will post everytime I haul my 18' enclosed snowmobile trailer and the car hauler.. I doubt i'm going to eat a bullet though.. that's a little harsh.. I can take the Jackass comment.. But the bullet part ya may went a little far on .. But to each their own..
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Please post a notice on here whenever you tow that with your minivan that you call a jeep, so myself and my entire family can stay off the road.

You are a jackass, and you are going to kill someone. Please fukc off, go eat a bullet and save an innocent family from a tragic loss.
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People with these inferior little cars have to prove how tough they are, just like the short kid on the playground. Let him rattle on about his toy "jeep", most of us know better.
Easy fellas. I believe this one crazy redneck isn't some regular joe that has a bumper hitch on his libby pulling an overweight trailer sipping his starbuck's coffee chatting on the phone.

1. He has airbags, which really help steering by keeing the rear off the ground.
2. He has the correct hitch setup on his jeep.
3. He is not over the manufacturer's limit, which unless you're in a modern 1/2 truck, is listed conservatively.
4. By reading what he posted about Baker Grade in Baker CA, he tests these very jeeps (and others) towing crazy trailer setups that catch wind and can get unstable quick if you don't know WTF you are doing.

If you see this Libby on the road and don't feel safe, just pass him or let him around.
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those are some whide tires on the cj
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Please post a notice on here whenever you tow that with your minivan that you call a jeep, so myself and my entire family can stay off the road.

You are a jackass, and you are going to kill someone. Please fukc off, go eat a bullet and save an innocent family from a tragic loss.

then why don't you complain to the DOT that Jeep has the wrong rating on their vehicle.

How can you fault a guy for adhering to the vehicle ratings?

Do you have any good reason for what you say? Or are you just shooting off at the mouth?
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Easy fellas. I believe this one crazy redneck isn't some regular joe that has a bumper hitch on his libby pulling an overweight trailer sipping his starbuck's coffee chatting on the phone.

1. He has airbags, which really help steering by keeing the rear off the ground.
2. He has the correct hitch setup on his jeep.
3. He is not over the manufacturer's limit, which unless you're in a modern 1/2 truck, is listed conservatively.
4. By reading what he posted about Baker Grade in Baker CA, he tests these very jeeps (and others) towing crazy trailer setups that catch wind and can get unstable quick if you don't know WTF you are doing.

If you see this Libby on the road and don't feel safe, just pass him or let him around.
Actually it's not Baker ya have to worry about. It's Mountain Pass.. That place is CRAZY!!! going up is no big deal.. it's coming down and catching a gust of wind.. We haul CRAZY loads with the largest frontal area we can find.. But we double and triple check the brakes on the trailers..

I don't know what's worse.. Me hauling my trailer with my LIL' Toy Jeep at max GVW at 60-65 or you Jack Azzs Hauling your trailer with your Duramax at 80-85 because you think your better than everyone else..

Again .. Like I said.. To each their own ..
I'm actually glad I brought this thread back up.. kinda makes me chuckle.
Oh and in the winter you can forget the fuel mileage.. It would be lucky to get 12towing..
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Actually it's not Baker ya have to worry about. It's Mountain Pass.. That place is CRAZY!!! going up is no big deal.. it's coming down and catching a gust of wind.. We haul CRAZY loads with the largest frontal area we can find.. But we double and triple check the brakes on the trailers..

I don't know what's worse.. Me hauling my trailer with my LIL' Toy Jeep at max GVW at 60-65 or you Jack Azzs Hauling your trailer with your Duramax at 80-85 because you think your better than everyone else..
LOL, all I ever hauled around those places were the superflow dynos and only in cars.

for towing at 60-65mph, feel free to tuck in behind my old PSD doing the same speed anytime.
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I don't know what's worse.. Me hauling my trailer with my LIL' Toy Jeep at max GVW at 60-65 or you Jack Azzs Hauling your trailer with your Duramax at 80-85 because you think your better than everyone else..
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those are some whide tires on the cj
They are 44" boggers all the way around now and yes they are wide.. I have since widened the trailer as well.. My new trailer is actually lighter than this one and the jeep is now 750lbs lighter than it was.. And fully dehillbillyized.

I seriously am a safe freak.. I was very hesitant to tow this at first. I use to have a 84 Ramchager that I hauled a car hauler with "ONCE" that thing was crazy scary.. This thing is very tight going down the road even in the crosswinds going across US-10.. I will say that I tow in Full Time 4wd drive otherwise every stop light it gets into the traction control to try and stop spining the rear tires..
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I have no prob lems what so ever with your towing setup. I just don't buy the mileage.

You are as safe or safer then most based on your posts I don't have any doubt you tow safely.
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I have no prob lems what so ever with your towing setup. I just don't buy the mileage.

You are as safe or safer then most based on your posts I don't have any doubt you tow safely.
That's cool.. I can tell you that stock towing it was around 13 .. With just the exhaust it went up to 15-16 .. With the chip set on power level 1, the exhaust, and getting up to 65 so converter goes into lockup and it shifts into 5th then dropping back down to 62 and setting the cruise is the optimal towing.. And when you are coming to a grade just hit the overdrive off button before you even get there.. Who ever did the trans cal in this thing had no idea about diesels.. If left in OD the trans will shift into second.. then scream for 4-8seconds .. then shift into drive.. shifting outta OD manually before any major grades I've never had it kick outta 3rd..

I towed a Mustang on my trailer to TN for a friend and on that trip we averaged 19mpg.. We towed that exact same vehicle and trailer back with a 2003 cummins and got 16mpg..

I'm not gonna argue the fuel mileage.. I posted it on the high side.. Towing on a windy day to Silver Lake with a friends Jeep on the back it got 15.. so it does vary.. but either way it does do DAMN good for what it is and I wish diesel wasn't 4.30 a gallon ..

Oh .. and I forgot the K&N Filter.. That's 45hp and 6mpg.. :miff:
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I once flat-towed my MJ with our CRD Libby and can attest to his fuel mileage. I got 16.7 for the trip (not exceeding the 55 mph semi limit). Bone stock CRD and the MJ was running plain-jane 31s, not the swampers. And that's NOT the number from the trip computer.
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Two things.

1. He's from Capac, which means Cows And Pigs And Chickens, so I'm sure he'd tow a 20 foot wide grain harvester behind him more safely than most would tow a pop up camper. In fact, one time in Capac I saw a guy towing a 20 foot flatbed trailer down the road with a manure spreader on it, that had a hitch, which was flat towing a rusted out old ford pickup. All this was being towed by a Buick Century.

2. My dad used to tow a 26 foot cabin cruiser behind a Chevy Monza. Sure, he had to put big chunks of cement on the console and hood to keep the front tires down, but it towed just fine.
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Two things.

1. He's from Capac, which means Cows And Pigs And Chickens, so I'm sure he'd tow a 20 foot wide grain harvester behind him more safely than most would tow a pop up camper. In fact, one time in Capac I saw a guy towing a 20 foot flatbed trailer down the road with a manure spreader on it, that had a hitch, which was flat towing a rusted out old ford pickup. All this was being towed by a Buick Century.

2. My dad used to tow a 26 foot cabin cruiser behind a Chevy Monza. Sure, he had to put big chunks of cement on the console and hood to keep the front tires down, but it towed just fine.

He's not from Capac.

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I won't even tell some of my towing sagas here, I may get lynched.. :tonka:
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That's cool.. I can tell you that stock towing it was around 13 .. With just the exhaust it went up to 15-16 .. With the chip set on power level 1, the exhaust, and getting up to 65 so converter goes into lockup and it shifts into 5th then dropping back down to 62 and setting the cruise is the optimal towing.. And when you are coming to a grade just hit the overdrive off button before you even get there.. Who ever did the trans cal in this thing had no idea about diesels.. If left in OD the trans will shift into second.. then scream for 4-8seconds .. then shift into drive.. shifting outta OD manually before any major grades I've never had it kick outta 3rd..

I towed a Mustang on my trailer to TN for a friend and on that trip we averaged 19mpg.. We towed that exact same vehicle and trailer back with a 2003 cummins and got 16mpg..

I'm not gonna argue the fuel mileage.. I posted it on the high side.. Towing on a windy day to Silver Lake with a friends Jeep on the back it got 15.. so it does vary.. but either way it does do DAMN good for what it is and I wish diesel wasn't 4.30 a gallon ..

Oh .. and I forgot the K&N Filter.. That's 45hp and 6mpg.. :miff:
Fair enough, I will say I am pretty surprised it hits those mileage numbers.

Good thing you got that K&M

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just let me know when you're on the road you jackass, so i can let my family know to stay off the road.


it's going to be just like the kid in the m5 that said he was a safe driver and then killed four of his friends.

if you are towing, make sure you know what the hell you are doing.

no libby has the right to tow 6000lbs, i don't care what the manufacturer says.

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