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Old July 27th, 2010, 09:12 PM   #1
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how am this pattern look? **UPDATE**




Have about 1000 miles on the axle - this pattern provides quiet cruising with a bit of noise coasting. Nothing I can't ignore.

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Old July 27th, 2010, 09:18 PM   #2
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Old July 27th, 2010, 09:19 PM   #3
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Looks yellow to me.
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Old July 27th, 2010, 09:22 PM   #4
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Old July 28th, 2010, 04:30 AM   #5
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Then you're going to be pissed to know this is going in an Astrovan...
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Old July 28th, 2010, 06:13 AM   #6
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Old July 28th, 2010, 06:30 AM   #7
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Old July 28th, 2010, 08:55 AM   #8
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Old July 28th, 2010, 08:56 AM   #9
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Old July 28th, 2010, 10:38 AM   #10
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nice looking van
you should change your name to SocKeR mOm

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Old July 28th, 2010, 11:15 AM   #11
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Looks like good tooth contact to me.
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Old July 28th, 2010, 11:21 AM   #12
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Old July 28th, 2010, 12:47 PM   #13
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It looks like it's a little out on the tooth, depending on how much of a PITA it was to get to that point, I'd see if you can get the contact patch into the root a little further and slightly outwards on the diameter. It's a little hard to tell in the pics but does the contact patch fall off the tip of the ring gear teeth or is it just some of the scuffing after the contact area?

I usually mess with it until I get the sweet spot that looks good and then see if I can get it any better making .002-.003" adjustments, if each change makes it worse then it's a good sign you're in the sweet spot.

But, if you dont have setup bearings and it's a big PITA then I'd say it's close enough and just run it if all the clearances and preloads check out. For what it's duty cycle is, I'm sure it'll be issue free.
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Old July 28th, 2010, 12:56 PM   #14
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Old July 28th, 2010, 01:00 PM   #15
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Shallow. Add .003 to .005.

The higher on the tooth the weaker the gear set, I would not run that pattern.
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Old July 28th, 2010, 01:19 PM   #16
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Scooter,

I'm assuming you just did a carrier swap... Correct? If so, how much backlash do you have?

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It looks like it's a little out on the tooth, depending on how much of a PITA it was to get to that point, I'd see if you can get the contact patch into the root a little further and slightly outwards on the diameter. It's a little hard to tell in the pics but does the contact patch fall off the tip of the ring gear teeth or is it just some of the scuffing after the contact area?

I usually mess with it until I get the sweet spot that looks good and then see if I can get it any better making .002-.003" adjustments, if each change makes it worse then it's a good sign you're in the sweet spot.

But, if you dont have setup bearings and it's a big PITA then I'd say it's close enough and just run it if all the clearances and preloads check out. For what it's duty cycle is, I'm sure it'll be issue free.
I agree with this

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Shallow. Add .003 to .005.

The higher on the tooth the weaker the gear set, I would not run that pattern.
If he did just a carrier swap, in theory he shouldn't have to change the pinion depth. I would recheck backlash first before sinking it. If the backlash is on the high end, he could tighten it up and recheck the pattern, it would probably bring it to a near perfect pattern.

I also agree with Bryce... It's an Astro Van, it would probably be just fine. It isn't really going to see hard use.




























I would try adjusting first by sinking it or adjusting BL before I ran that pattern.
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Old July 28th, 2010, 01:35 PM   #17
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If he did just a carrier swap, in theory he shouldn't have to change the pinion depth. I would recheck backlash first before sinking it. If the backlash is on the high end, he could tighten it up and recheck the pattern, it would probably bring it to a near perfect pattern.

I also agree with Bryce... It's an Astro Van, it would probably be just fine. It isn't really going to see hard use.
He said pinion bearings as well, but even if not, I've seen factory setups that weren't great patterns.

Backlash will move the pattern slightly deeper or shallow, but it tends to move the pattern more from heel to toe than anything.

It takes what, 20 more minutes to make it perfect?
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He said pinion bearings as well, but even if not, I've seen factory setups that weren't great patterns.

Backlash will move the pattern slightly deeper or shallow, but it tends to move the pattern more from heel to toe than anything.

It takes what, 20 more minutes to make it perfect?
I agree with as well...
If he pulled the pinion, then I agree try and sink it. I have also crappy patterns on factory GM gears.

Did you see my disclaimer on the bottom of my last post?
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Old July 28th, 2010, 01:57 PM   #19
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I agree with as well...
If he pulled the pinion, then I agree try and sink it. I have also crappy patterns on factory GM gears.

Did you see my disclaimer on the bottom of my last post?
I did see it.
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Old July 28th, 2010, 04:14 PM   #20
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It takes what, 20 more minutes to make it perfect?
IF I had setup bearings for my pinion, or a press - yes.

I have no press to get that damned bearing off to add teh sheemz. Currently has an 0.041 in there.

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