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Old July 18th, 2010, 10:02 PM   #41
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Have you ever seen a honda civic up there?
I saw a civic wagon up there and a 4 door civic car and i see subis all the time but there awd a buddy of my dads seen an impala goin alright up there couldnt do test forwards but could in reverse lol
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I saw a Geo up there :)
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Old July 19th, 2010, 11:04 PM   #43
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And forget that tiny folding shovel, you'll only piss yourself off in a sweaty fury. Bring a full size flat shovel, since you have the room in a pickup.
I had one that dug me out of some tight spots previous before...but left it @ RnV! Sucked for most anything except the 90 degree option was very helpful
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I know a lot of guys are saying you'll be fine but we had a situation this weekend. My buddies full size Dodge Ram - Big Horn lost its 4WD while we were in the dunes. I had to pull him out several times when he cruised around in 2WD (rear). I didn't mind pulling around a Dodge in my Chevy but it did get frustrating for him having to drive around on "egg shells" so to speak. Plus he didn't want to leave my sight for fear he'd get stuck and have to wait for someone to pull him out.

I know a Dodge isn't what you have, but I just wanted to let you know. The same thing happened to us in our 1989 Jeep Wrangler a few years ago, but that thing went everywhere in 2WD.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 01:39 PM   #45
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I know a lot of guys are saying you'll be fine but we had a situation this weekend. My buddies full size Dodge Ram - Big Horn lost its 4WD while we were in the dunes. I had to pull him out several times when he cruised around in 2WD (rear). I didn't mind pulling around a Dodge in my Chevy but it did get frustrating for him having to drive around on "egg shells" so to speak. Plus he didn't want to leave my sight for fear he'd get stuck and have to wait for someone to pull him out.

I know a Dodge isn't what you have, but I just wanted to let you know. The same thing happened to us in our 1989 Jeep Wrangler a few years ago, but that thing went everywhere in 2WD.
what tire pressure was he running?

I've been running the dunes for over 20 years, and I believe WR and others posting here have me beet... when I was there last time a ton of people were stuck on the entrance ramp, but every one of them had too much air in the tires.
I tried helping a couple and I heard several "I ran 15lb last year and did fine..."
well then if you are so sure you've got the right air pressure why are you stuck on the entrance ramp...


Sand conditions will even change thru out the day, not just the steepness, but the softness, on a hot dry day you may need to take tires down lower then when the sand is firm,

if you don't see the side wall bulging a little you've got way too much air in the tires, that's my theory and it has served me well out there.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 02:24 PM   #46
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what tire pressure was he running?

I've been running the dunes for over 20 years, and I believe WR and others posting here have me beet... when I was there last time a ton of people were stuck on the entrance ramp, but every one of them had too much air in the tires.
I tried helping a couple and I heard several "I ran 15lb last year and did fine..."
well then if you are so sure you've got the right air pressure why are you stuck on the entrance ramp...


Sand conditions will even change thru out the day, not just the steepness, but the softness, on a hot dry day you may need to take tires down lower then when the sand is firm,

if you don't see the side wall bulging a little you've got way too much air in the tires, that's my theory and it has served me well out there.
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what tire pressure was he running?

I've been running the dunes for over 20 years, and I believe WR and others posting here have me beet... when I was there last time a ton of people were stuck on the entrance ramp, but every one of them had too much air in the tires.
I tried helping a couple and I heard several "I ran 15lb last year and did fine..."
well then if you are so sure you've got the right air pressure why are you stuck on the entrance ramp...


Sand conditions will even change thru out the day, not just the steepness, but the softness, on a hot dry day you may need to take tires down lower then when the sand is firm,

if you don't see the side wall bulging a little you've got way too much air in the tires, that's my theory and it has served me well out there.
I hear ya Swampjeep...it was our buddy JeepersTrudie that was running the Dodge (he didn't bring his Wrangler). He ran 10psi in his Jeep and got around in 2WD but I believe he was running around 18psi in his Dodge last weekend. He has the 20" wheels and was afraid of loosing a bead. But definitely would have done better in 2WD if he would've dropped his pressure. We fixed the problem later that day (the 30amp fuse for the 4WD went bad).

By the way, I rode my first motorcycle in the Dunes in '79 and used to run a Beetle style buggy in the Dunes all throughout the 80's. I didn't have to start worrying about air pressure until the mid-90's when I switched to a Jeep. Like you said, air pressure is the key, but I still worry about going too low without bead-locks.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 04:12 PM   #48
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almost 40 years for me.i was going up there when i was a itch in my daddys pants!!!! no direction could drive in the lake and you could drink up there.....

there is 2 wheel drive rigs all the time up there..the shaggin waggin is 2 wheel and he goes everywhere.8 pounds in your tires and you will have no issues..
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I hear ya Swampjeep...it was our buddy JeepersTrudie that was running the Dodge (he didn't bring his Wrangler). He ran 10psi in his Jeep and got around in 2WD but I believe he was running around 18psi in his Dodge last weekend. He has the 20" wheels and was afraid of loosing a bead. But definitely would have done better in 2WD if he would've dropped his pressure. We fixed the problem later that day (the 30amp fuse for the 4WD went bad).

By the way, I rode my first motorcycle in the Dunes in '79 and used to run a Beetle style buggy in the Dunes all throughout the 80's. I didn't have to start worrying about air pressure until the mid-90's when I switched to a Jeep. Like you said, air pressure is the key, but I still worry about going too low without bead-locks.
I call bullshit. I had an Appletree 4 seater in the same era and I know I had to air down. Beetle bugs didn't get around all that well and there's no way you're going to tell me you ran around with 25 psi in one.
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almost 40 years for me.i was going up there when i was a itch in my daddys pants!!!! no direction could drive in the lake and you could drink up there.....

there is 2 wheel drive rigs all the time up there..the shaggin waggin is 2 wheel and he goes everywhere.8 pounds in your tires and you will have no issues..
Bullshit. I started going there in 1976 and there was no drinking in the dunes then.
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Old July 21st, 2010, 12:22 AM   #51
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Unless you have 16.5 rims there isn't much worry at all to drop down to atleast 10psi unless it a big ass disel truck and ya turn sharp while going fast.. I have run 6-10psi 1 ton full size trucks of all diferant rims and only lost 1 bead and again that was turning while going fast and rolled it off
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I gotta get my broke ass up n see what all this fuss is about. So for sombody who has NEVER been there before............it's like $50 bucks? for a flag n the stickers n crap to get in?
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I gotta get my broke ass up n see what all this fuss is about. So for sombody who has NEVER been there before............it's like $50 bucks? for a flag n the stickers n crap to get in?
Depends on how you look at it. Yes, it will cost you that much to get in but NONE of it is a repeat cost. You can keep your flag and both your state park and ORV stickers are good for a full year. So for that same $50, you can go back for free for the rest of the year.
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my first truck was a stock 2wd 2.2l ext. cab s-10 with open diff and it went everywhere out there with some persuasion. i ran 8psi front 4psi rear and had stock size all season street tires. the long hills like getting in and out are what get you. it would crawl up them with my bike and gear in the back but i had to really go for it when empty. test hill was no problem. it did better than my new dodge does in 2wd. i just started out where everyone stops to watch at the bottom and shift to second gear and left it. it would almost bounce off the rev limiter at the bottom and be chugging at the top but it went right up 90% of the time. you should have no problems and have lots of fun.
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Bullshit. I started going there in 1976 and there was no drinking in the dunes then.
well it might not of been legal but nobody stopped you.saw alot of crazy stuff riding in the back of my dads old bronco.
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well it might not of been legal but nobody stopped you.saw alot of crazy stuff riding in the back of my dads old bronco.
I'll agree with you there. Somewhere I have pics of us riding in the back of my buddy's truck, standing up holding on to the rollbar going up hills. The other fun thing was to ride in a bean bag chair in the back of a truck.

ahhhhh......... those were the days.
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I gotta get my broke ass up n see what all this fuss is about. So for sombody who has NEVER been there before............it's like $50 bucks? for a flag n the stickers n crap to get in?
You don't HAVE to get all the stickers. I got in all weekend (4th July) without a state park sticker because I had at least 7 on my windshield already. But I did get a ticket for expired registration at $125.00. If I were to get it registered and pay for the yearly sticker I could have saved myself $25.00. Who needs a case of beer anyway.
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For driving it on the road I take it, you don't need a registration for the dunes just a orv
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For driving it on the road I take it, you don't need a registration for the dunes just a orv
Once again I should have stated the obvious, yes driving it on the road.
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I call bullshit. I had an Appletree 4 seater in the same era and I know I had to air down. Beetle bugs didn't get around all that well and there's no way you're going to tell me you ran around with 25 psi in one.
What I was saying is, we ran around 10psi in the balloon tires on the buggy all the time. We never went up and down on and off road.
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