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Old July 2nd, 2010, 12:21 AM   #1
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Im looking into fabing a set of tube doors for my 2000 WJ. any ideas or suggestions?
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 12:27 AM   #2
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well first off its a unibody. taking off the doors = taking away integrity from the body.

if your ok with that, then the first step I would do is find a set you like online to copy off of. then find and install hinges, and a latch mechanism. from that point measure, and bend your tube accordingly.
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from wat i have read, the doors are not that critical to the structural intergity of the unibody..
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 12:44 AM   #4
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They make my vehicle in a unibody version after 1995. Those owners who take their doors off constantly remind others that they may not be a huge structural integrity, but after a while they won't fit right anymore....especially with the rear hatch.

I'd be weary about doing it.....Although I have a frame and I CAN do it ;)
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They are not integral to the structure.

But the do make a huge difference if you were to get hit on the side, like a t-bone.
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Old July 8th, 2010, 05:27 PM   #6
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If the doors were structural then you wouldn't be able to open them with out the car falling in on itself. My buddy has a mid 90s Grand and we went to parts galore and got 2 first gen blazer rear tire racks(like $20 each) cut off the tire mount and switched the latch and handle around and they work awesome perfect size too no shortening or anything.
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I just have to know why in the first place. Its a Grand, it shouldn't leave a soccer field.
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The doors may not be "structural" but they likely keep your door frames, door shaped. x2 Keep the grand for mall crawling and get something with a frame for wheeling.
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LOL those doors rock. And sorry to say but I wheel a XJ with no frame and bet it'll go where ever you guys go and then some...

And mine has no doors or windows, I've ever rolled it and floped it and it's still straight...
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Its not a matter of being capable, its a longevity thing. Besides, winching someone out who's really stuck and hoping to hell the sheet metal holds whatever is bolted to it is just a little scary.
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Its not a matter of being capable, its a longevity thing. Besides, winching someone out who's really stuck and hoping to hell the sheet metal holds whatever is bolted to it is just a little scary.
My winch connects to my bumpers(front or back) and when I winch people out I make sure to hook on to a nice tow point. How in the world does sheet metal have anything to do with it?
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If the doors were structural then you wouldn't be able to open them with out the car falling in on itself. My buddy has a mid 90s Grand and we went to parts galore and got 2 first gen blazer rear tire racks(like $20 each) cut off the tire mount and switched the latch and handle around and they work awesome perfect size too no shortening or anything.
I have to ask, what is the point of these?

They can't offer any structural integrity, and they sure won't help you if you flop it against a rock, or get t-boned.

Is it purely just for looks?


Not trying to be a dick, just would like to know.
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How in the world does sheet metal have anything to do with it?
Erm, A unibody vehicle is nothing but a pig heap of thin sheet metal. The only thing that gives it any strength is its shape. If your winch is attached to you bumper and if your bumper is attached to the big pile of sheet metal known as "your rig", you are winching on nothing but sheet metal.
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Erm, A unibody vehicle is nothing but a pig heap of thin sheet metal. The only thing that gives it any strength is its shape. If your winch is attached to you bumper and if your bumper is attached to the big pile of sheet metal known as "your rig", you are winching on nothing but sheet metal.
Oh I see. Well so far I haven't had any problems and mine is a BIG heap of shit....LOL
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Sheet, I wrote sheet!
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Sheet, I wrote sheet!
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First off a uni body is not all thin sheet metal. I worked in crash testing at GM and there is a lot of thick metal around the "frame" and bumper attachment area and is actual quit strong. The doors have absolutely no structural integrity, I know a guy who has run his XJ with no doors the hole time we were in high school, every winter he put them back on with no problems.

and to answer the question there there to keep your ass in if the seat belt fails.

also why wouldn't you weel a Grand? its full coil sprung like a TJ
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Also I don't believe the doors are completely done that was just after getting them welded up and we were hungry so we drove it to get food.
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Erm, A unibody vehicle is nothing but a pig heap of thin sheet metal. The only thing that gives it any strength is its shape. If your winch is attached to you bumper and if your bumper is attached to the big pile of sheet metal known as "your rig", you are winching on nothing but sheet metal.
And what is a frame made of? Unibody is made up of many different thickness of metal. Some of which is as thick as a frame and some is high strength steel.


So shut up already

What a ritard
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The doors may not be "structural" but they likely keep your door frames, door shaped. x2 Keep the grand for mall crawling and get something with a frame for wheeling.
Wrong
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