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Old June 30th, 2010, 08:06 PM   #1
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I installed a set of summit brand headers on my 88 Jimmy today and noticed this.



I'm running a K&N filter with Royal Purple 10W30 and I was wondering how much that is going to heat up the oil and if it will cause the filter to fail. It's not really pressed into the filter but just touching.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 08:11 PM   #2
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if you can use a spacer of some mind to create an air gap or use insulation there. its going to transfer heat and cause the oil to "coke" right there in the housing.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 08:11 PM   #3
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I would get the short filter and be set. The filter won't last too long that close. You could pull the header off and clearance the tube in that spot and keep the long filter.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 08:23 PM   #4
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I was thinking about hammering that tube on the header a bit but I'm not sure if that would be bad or not. I also didn't know they made a shorter filter. I'll have to look into that.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 08:25 PM   #5
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You could get a remote oil filter.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 08:30 PM   #6
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You could get a remote oil filter.
x2 Run it up into your engine bay where it is easier to get to.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 08:46 PM   #7
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either run a PF454 or similar filter. or you can get a remote oil filter kit.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 10:01 PM   #8
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I would go with the remote filter before even considering a smaller filter..the remote has many more advantages...a little more capacity to the oil system, a bit more cooling of the oil, and the filter can be placed in a spot much easier to service, plus it will move it to a spot where your headers wont heat it up at all, where just a shorter filter will still be somewhat close to the header and absorb some excess heat
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i would go with the remote filter before even considering a smaller filter..the remote has many more advantages...a little more capacity to the oil system, a bit more cooling of the oil, and the filter can be placed in a spot much easier to service, plus it will move it to a spot where your headers wont heat it up at all, where just a shorter filter will still be somewhat close to the header and absorb some excess heat
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If you hammer the header I doubt the flange plate will stay flat, just move the filtere.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 10:37 PM   #11
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To answer your question I would think the filter would get as hot as that header. Hot oil means thinner oil, thinner oil means less protection. Go remote.
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Yeah I was considering hammering the header a last resort. I was debating between a shorter filter or going remote. I really don't want to spend 80 bucks on a remote setup. How hot would it still get with a non-touching, shorter filter? I currently run at 55 to 60 PSI of oil pressure at a warm idle and 70 to 75 warm when I'm on the gas so how much can I expect that to drop with hotter oil?
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Spin on the short filter, see if it clears.
Run it until you can get the remote unit,
but get the remote unit as soon as you can.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 11:17 PM   #14
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Spin on the short filter, see if it clears.
Run it until you can get the remote unit,
but get the remote unit as soon as you can.
Sounds like a plan. Thats what I'll prolly do.
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just for refrence, around every 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit of oil temp you increase you loose 1 psi of oil pressure, so if you start at 70 degree oil and you have 70 psi once you hit 180 degrees you'll have 37 psi... so your best bet is to go remote.... and most vehicles running down the road are running over 200 degrees with out headers hitting the oil filter.
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I have a brand new perma-cool remote oil filter kit that I bought and never used. $50 and Ill ship it to you ASAP. It uses the Ford large oil filter for increased capacity.
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I have a brand new perma-cool remote oil filter kit that I bought and never used. $50 and Ill ship it to you ASAP. It uses the Ford large oil filter for increased capacity.
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I have a brand new perma-cool remote oil filter kit that I bought and never used. $50 and Ill ship it to you ASAP. It uses the Ford large oil filter for increased capacity.
You said it uses the large Ford filter but what about on the engine side? I need one for a 350 that is the same as a Fram ph5, ACDelco PF454, ect.
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You said it uses the large Ford filter but what about on the engine side? I need one for a 350 that is the same as a Fram ph5, ACDelco PF454, ect.
The kit has all the standard adapters for the different engine blocks. I bought it to use on a chevy 350 truck block i was planning on putting into a camaro but never ended up doing it.
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You could get a remote oil filter.
x2 man great way to make it easy on u in the long run
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