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Old June 10th, 2010, 10:59 AM   #1
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So I keep hearing Rush, Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, and all those other righties criticizing Obama for not doing enough, or doing it too slowly, in response the oil spill, and I am confused. maybe some of you righties can answer a few questions for me:

1. If Obama should have done more, what should it have been?
2. Shouldn's it be BP that is criticized for not doing enough?
3. If you hate government involvement in private business so much, why are you calling for it now?

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Old June 10th, 2010, 01:36 PM   #2
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Old June 10th, 2010, 01:59 PM   #3
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Old June 10th, 2010, 02:00 PM   #4
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Heh... That figures that that's the best you can do. What a joke.
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well, he could actually have a conversation with BP's CEO to keep tabs on the situation. To this day, he has not picked up the phone and actually had a conversation with him.
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well, he could actually have a conversation with BP's CEO to keep tabs on the situation. To this day, he has not picked up the phone and actually had a conversation with him.
I agree that he should. I don't know if that is true or not. I believe you, but I would be interested to how you know that to be true.

That said, we still have the issue of government intervention in private business, so for Obama to call BP's CEO would be the next problem.

BTW: I find it interesting that people equate thie to Katrina in any way other than it being a disaster, as this was an act of man in violation of generally accpeted (in every other country that allows offshore dirlling anyway) operating practices, and Katrina was a storm.
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Because beck, rush o'rielly, and hannity are fucking retards. The bad thing is that there are enough inbred hillbilles out there to eat up there every word.
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I agree that he should. I don't know if that is true or not. I believe you, but I would be interested to how you know that to be true.

That said, we still have the issue of government intervention in private business, so for Obama to call BP's CEO would be the next problem.

BTW: I find it interesting that people equate thie to Katrina in any way other than it being a disaster, as this was an act of man in violation of generally accpeted (in every other country that allows offshore dirlling anyway) operating practices, and Katrina was a storm.
This is part of the Matt Lauer interview. I head the prez say it himself.
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Interesting. 69 views so far and no Republicans answering the hard questions...

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i want Mmike Meyers to get on tv and say that obama doesnt care about white people while Kanye West is standing there.
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Old June 10th, 2010, 05:06 PM   #11
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When private business starts fucking over the mass public and the economy of the U.S.that is already in trouble its time the government steps in. I say bring home our troops and take care of our business. Everyone has there own opinion and thats just mine and I'm sure not everyone will agree on anything.
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AGB, why have you been such an antagonistic douchnozzle the last few days?

I consider myself a conservative but I don't feel government should take over the problem of the oil spill at this point. I feel that the oil industry needs to continue their efforts to stop the leak. If anything, the goverment should possibly get involved in any cleanup efforts.

What do you think should be done? Should we print more money to take care of this problem? Should we put somebody in charge that has no experience with the oil industry, Should we financially cripple BP so they cannot continue their efforts to contain the leak?

Please tell us your grand plan O wise one. You seem to have everthing figured out, prove it.

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Obama needed to mobilize all available government and private resources to contain the spill and prevent it from reaching shore. Action - not dithering.

Take charge and show a little leadership. He could've made BP pay for it all later.
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What he just said.
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...Rush, Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity...

3. If you hate government involvement in private business so much, why are you calling for it now?

I'm none of those people. You shouldn't try to use second-person narrative unless you have a good grasp of the not only the concept, but the English language.
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I as looking around to see what has been said since the accident happen and I keep running into a Oblabla quote "We (The Government and Oblabla) have been in charge of this since day one".

So I do have a suggestion, get Oblabla out of the equation.
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the oil spill is bush's fault.
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He should have put resources in the area, irregardless of what BP does. On the beach, in the sand. Marines, Army, Navy, National Guard, Forest Service, BLM, NPS, convict crews, every resource available.
All thet bow legged Kenyan chancre has done is pose for a couple photo ops.
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#1:
The reason why Obama is under so much scrutiny / blame for this drilling accident - AND - why it is being compared to Katrina is very simple.

Human nature.

Bush caught tons of flack over Katrina for some things he could've helped but most things were out of his control. It was not his style to be a media star and keep an entourage of press around him to update every little thing he did. Right or wrong, he conducted his presidency in the "classical" fashion of doing what he thought was best for America and wasn't concerned with communicating his plans to the public.
Right or wrong, after the media whore Clinton, this type of office doesn't seem to work any more.

Now, you have Obama. This is a person that seems to thrive on self-promotion by constant contact with the media. He acts more like a movie star or celebrity than our President. Personally, I do not agree with that, but that is neither here nor there - just my opinion.
Anyway, getting back to human nature, conservatives are human - and part of being human can include being greedy and being fickle.

Fickle: The "Liberal News Media" had gone after Bush more than necessary and now that there is a democrat in office, this kind of blame game is to be expected as our society regresses. Slinging mud at Obama is the new (pardon the horrible pun) "black". While I agree with some of what people have said about him, this oil spill argument is absolutely retarded.

Greed - aren't all greedy? I don't know if I'd call myself a republican, however, I am certainly interested in keeping as much of the money I earn and deciding where to spend it. These days, it is in vogue to call people like that inhuman, uncaring, and incapable of compassion. Any way you feel about the money you make, there are many people out there working hard to make money and see Obama as a direct threat to their finances.

So, combining these two characteristics and throwing in a health dose of selfishness covered in fear - I see this whole oil spill debacle as childish on one front and on the other; a way to build some kind of momentum to get more votes against him come election time.

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I don't know how much scrutiny BP is under or not; I do believe after seeing their reported profit from last year that they have the financial means to fund an effective cleanup of this spill. One thing I think our administration is doing wrong is that they are taking the hard line ("boot on the neck of BP", "don't know who's ass to kick") to counter the criticism for some of Obama's apologist acts (IMHO). His administration is boasting that BP doesn't make a move unless they (the administration) approves it AND they they recommended all of the successful "attempts" at stopping the flow of oil.

Somehow, if that is the case, Obama is responsible for any lack of direction or impetus behind BP and any attempts at restitution / cleaning up their mess. Obama can't have it both ways. IMHO, it would have been better for everybody involved to present it as a working relationship to correct the problem asap to:
- protect the environment;
- repair / clean the affected environment;
- preserve resources needed to get us to the next stage of energy usage.

Instead, it is just a big blame game and as Obama works at vilifying BP, perhaps BP is getting fed up and studying up on just how much power the government has and just when they can tell the President and his administration to take a flying leap.

#3:
I cannot give an unbiased opinion on government taking over businesses in the private sector; my wife and I (and ALL OF MICHIGAN for that matter) reaped direct benefits from the government stepping in and saving GM's ass. The changes forced upon GM are not all ones I agree with, but overall turnaround under old management hadn't worked yet, so... who am I to really criticize?

I will say that if the government steps in to save an industry that is going to fail, and take a big portion of the economy with it (again, I admit I am biased) - I am in total agreement.

As far as taking over a company that has plenty of resources, just in order to force regulation and direct reparations - I would have to disagree with doing that.

These are only my opinions, of course.
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#1. Obama and BP turned down help from the Dutch on day 3 of the spill. Turning down the assistance ships equipped with oil skimming booms.
http://mayrantandrave.com/2010/06/09...mers-on-day-3/

#2. Yes BP should have done more.. please see answer to question #1

#3. This disaster happened in US Federal waters and the president/administration should have done SOMETHING other than wait a month and a half to do whatever it is they have done up to this point.
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