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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:12 PM   #1
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Default Muslims Appointed To Homeland Security

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dhs.asp

Well, boys and girls, today the fox is guarding the hen house. The wolves will be herding the sheep!

Obama appointed two devout Muslims to home land security posts. Doesn't this make you feel safer already?

Obama and Janet Napolitano appointed Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development. DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim, who was born in Damascus, Syria, as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).


NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...?


Just wondering.

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn't this make you feel safer already?? That should make our home land much safer, huh!!

Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 1/2 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood ?
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:25 PM   #2
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Yes, it does make me feel safer knowing that people that might have an understanding of Muslim thought is working for us to try and stop Muslim extremists from attacking us. When that Christian Militia group got caught planning an attack did you question the religious beliefs of the people investigating it.

And you are correct, the media never bothers to mention peoples religious beliefs unless it's Muslim.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:26 PM   #3
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It was radical muslims that did those terrorist acts. Look how crazy some christians/jews are. The amount of radical muslims in relation to normal muslims is small. A lot of muslims call america home and love it here and they are dismayed by the actions some crazy disillusioned young men. I consider my christian but am constantly disgusted by the behaviour of book burning religeous nuts. Just how I look at it. Judging them based on religeon/ethnicity is bigotry and makes us no better than them.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:27 PM   #4
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I question ALL groups religious beliefs..

Seem you can attach a reason to every war on this planet back to religion..

That's the bigger issue.....
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:31 PM   #5
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Well a lot of politicans use religeon to further there cause. I would distrust them more than any proclaimed agnostic/atheist. At least they are not afraid to tell people their belief knowing they will be judged unfairly because of it.
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I'm more concerned with our president being a devout muslim, who is on record making fun of christianity.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:38 PM   #7
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I thought our "dear" prez attended a christian church? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:40 PM   #8
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YOUR dear prez attends no church since rev wrights, is on record making fun of christianity, and is on record saying the morning muslim prayer is "the sweetest sound on earth" All he had to do was say "yup, i'm a christian" and the sheeple of this country believed it. You're not one of those sheeple, are you?
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I would suppose this is one way for them to take over, get into government and over populate the country by sheer numbers.
As far as them being in charge of homeland security, haveing the insight to how muslims act and what to look for may be one thing but, can they be trusted? Just like the fort hood shooting was he not a muslim and an officer in the armed services? The guy who set up to bomb times square with his suv, was he not an american citizen? They may wear the label as american but thier heart is for islam period
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:46 PM   #10
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There have been thousands of Devout Christians in Government Offices. I'm sure SOME of the news sources mentioned that. People of religous Affiliation are just as good at office then not. Could be better even, They believe they answer to a higher being.


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I question ALL groups religious beliefs..

Seem you can attach a reason to every war on this planet back to religion..

That's the bigger issue.....
WW2 had nothing to do with Religion. They killed a RACE, not a Faith. There have been plenty of wars that have nothing to do with it.

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I'm more concerned with our president being a devout muslim, who is on record making fun of christianity.
So then I take it you, and many others, won't be running for President? YOu guys make fun of Christianity all the time. That, I can say, Is a Relief for me.
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I'm not trying to defend or condemn. I was trying to say that we shouldn't judge people soley on religeon or skin color. Liars/thiefs come of all colors. I fear that people judge our prez because of his color/religeon and not because of his ability. I voted obama because I was tired of stuffy old white guys whose agenda is all the same. I was hoping for change. Maybe I'm disappointed but not because of his religeon...
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I'm not trying to defend or condemn. I was trying to say that we shouldn't judge people soley on religeon or skin color. Liars/thiefs come of all colors. I fear that people judge our prez because of his color/religeon and not because of his ability. I voted obama because I was tired of stuffy old white guys whose agenda is all the same. I was hoping for change. Maybe I'm disappointed but not because of his religeon...
I don't judge obama on his skin color or religion it is his policies as a democrat. I do not agree with what he stands for. So then you believed his lies when he said he will change things but did you ask what is he going to change? He said he was a christian( to get the vote) but now we see through his actions he is a muslim. As we are at war with the extreme muslim. It is like we just opened up our door to let them in.
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There have been thousands of Devout Christians in Government Offices. I'm sure SOME of the news sources mentioned that. People of religous Affiliation are just as good at office then not. Could be better even, They believe they answer to a higher being.




WW2 had nothing to do with Religion. They killed a RACE, not a Faith. There have been plenty of wars that have nothing to do with it.



So then I take it you, and many others, won't be running for President? YOu guys make fun of Christianity all the time. That, I can say, Is a Relief for me.
I could run for president I don't make fun of christianity specifically, I make fun of all religions. Anybody who can mindfuck themselves into believing any of those fairy tales is not mentally competent for office in my opinion. I do believe that many americans who claim to be christian do so simply because it's what's been expected of them through generations.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 01:20 PM   #14
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I will say I always voted republican cause I grew up in a republican family. But usually both choices suck terribly and I voted who I hoped would at least have the common courtesy to give a reach around when they fukc me. I respect anyone who votes regardless of who they vote for.
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Yes, it does make me feel safer knowing that people that might have an understanding of Muslim thought is working for us to try and stop Muslim extremists from attacking us. When that Christian Militia group got caught planning an attack did you question the religious beliefs of the people investigating it.

And you are correct, the media never bothers to mention peoples religious beliefs unless it's Muslim.
Agreed... I am glad that we have some on our side.

Thinking that all Muslims are terrorist is like thinking that all Christians are crusaders.
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I think all religious groups/believers are nuts across the board..

Mindless little sheep with no means of thinking for them selves..
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I think all religious groups/believers are nuts across the board..

Mindless little sheep with no means of thinking for them selves..
I just want to make point with your understanding that I'm a "mindless little sheep with no means of thinking for myself" and I'm proud of it.


for the non-believers in the crowd, that means I'm a Christian

Your statement holds as much water as me calling you an absent minded nut-job. But have a nice day, anyway.
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I just want to make point with your understanding that I'm a "mindless little sheep with no means of thinking for myself" and I'm proud of it.


for the non-believers in the crowd, that means I'm a Christian

Your statement holds as much water as me calling you an absent minded nut-job. But have a nice day, anyway.
well put
The Christains I know are educated, own thier own businesses (Multi-million dollars businesses) and yet they cannot think for themselves, I am amazed at how uneducated some people are about Christians. People are to quick to believe in the stereo type Christain that non/believers think they are.
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well put
The Christains I know are educated, own thier own businesses (Multi-million dollars businesses) and yet they cannot think for themselves, I am amazed at how uneducated some people are about Christians. People are to quick to believe in the stereo type Christain that non/believers think they are.
Christianity serves its purpose for those who put it to good use, but it doesn't make god real. Have you ever noticed how well behaved little kids try to be on christmas eve? Think about it.
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I would suppose this is one way for them to take over, get into government and over populate the country by sheer numbers.
As far as them being in charge of homeland security, haveing the insight to how muslims act and what to look for may be one thing but, can they be trusted? Just like the fort hood shooting was he not a muslim and an officer in the armed services? The guy who set up to bomb times square with his suv, was he not an american citizen? They may wear the label as american but thier heart is for islam period
Kind of like christians try to do?
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