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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:43 PM   #121
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Are you really suggesting that curbing the uncontrolled flow of illegal immigrants into the country which we end up bearing the burden of supporting through our taxes is not a good reason? Because that sounds pretty ridiculous.
Not one person in this discussion has suggested that--I certainly havent.We need to stop them from coming here. I said this law will do nothing to control it. But it will narrow legal americans rights. As I have already stated-these people will just get fake ID. And even if we catch a few with it we will just ship them back. The day after they get back they will be walking right back across the border. Check the border patrols stats on how many times the average illegal they catch has been caught before. How about we create some jobs for americans and build huge prison camps up in the alaskan tundra--get caught and spend two years up there in prison chopping wood and trying to stay warm. Then they may think twice about coming back.

On the other hand are you and the other people who support this so scared to take real action that you would rather just give up your civil liberties and feel like we have done something?? I'm not for passing laws for the sake of doing so. Laws should have a real measurable effect. Again we have thousands of gun laws restricting legal americans rights to own guns and criminals still have them. Yet when a criminal commits a gun crime there is a knee jerk reaction by the public and polititions pass another law.

Ahhh whatever--not one person here has provided a law or decision to prove you currently have to carry ID. Because there isnt any. I posted supreme court decisions/quotes showing you didnt. Nothing more I can say if people dont understand it at this point. I'll leave this area of the board to all the google nuts who pump themselves up tryin to find fault with things everyone else is saying. I'm going to go wheel and wrench on my projects .
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Old May 14th, 2010, 01:25 PM   #122
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Ahhh whatever--not one person here has provided a law or decision to prove you currently have to carry ID. Because there isnt any. I posted supreme court decisions/quotes showing you didnt.
I don't believe this discussion was about that at all. I think that's just what you thought it was about.

Your rights are not narrowed by this. It has alreay been established that it changes nothing for legal residents. All it does is give LEO's additional abilities to identify illegals.

It baffles me that you would challange the concept of enabling LEO's to identify you as a legal resident. Are you a Canadian illegally working in the US or something?
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BTW, there is federal law already on the books that gives police the right to ask for "papers" WITHOUT cause.
I love how every government person that is bitching on TV about this has admitted they haven't even read the damn thing.

If this has been pointed out in this thread already I'm sorry, I haven't read every page.
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BTW, there is federal law already on the books that gives police the right to ask for "papers" WITHOUT cause.
I love how every government person that is bitching on TV about this has admitted they haven't even read the damn thing.

If this has been pointed out in this thread already I'm sorry, I haven't read every page.
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