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Old April 30th, 2010, 09:23 AM   #81
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Yes Mike, I do.
These people fall into the "can't get right category"
"Repeat" means they don't and won't learn, costing me more money that I have
worked legally and hard for.
what about changing the system so they aren't wasting your hard earned tax dollars living in prison? It must be very libertarian of me to believe that a person should be able to do to their body what they want. IF they end up od'ing, fine, but I don't think you should be able to kill or imprison somebody because they do drugs and get caught. If they are endangering the lives of somebody else while they are doing it, (ie driving a car) that's a different story.
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Old April 30th, 2010, 09:38 AM   #82
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These people will NEVER stop costing me money.
If I'm not spending it on keeping them in prison,
I'm spending it replacing something they've stolen to pay for drugs, or paying their medical bills,
And my favorite...raising their children.
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Old April 30th, 2010, 09:51 AM   #83
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These people will NEVER stop costing me money.
If I'm not spending it on keeping them in prison,
I'm spending it replacing something they've stolen to pay for drugs, or paying their medical bills,
And my favorite...raising their children.
Spoken like someone who maybe knows a little something and has had to work for the things she has
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Old April 30th, 2010, 09:55 AM   #84
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Spoken like someone who maybe knows a little something and has had to work for the things she has
I guess we should just turn prisons into meat grinders, then we could use that to feed our livestock.
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Old April 30th, 2010, 10:29 AM   #85
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I guess we should just turn prisons into meat grinders, then we could use that to feed our livestock.
Instead of places where people go in and come out worse, then go in and come out worse, and then go back in and come out worse? There has to be a better answer for both the people who need to be reformed and those of us who are funding it. It there was a deterent to committing a crime of any type which was more than a hot meal and a few free tattoos... maybe we wouldn't have career criminals.
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Old April 30th, 2010, 10:35 AM   #86
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Instead of places where people go in and come out worse, then go in and come out worse, and then go back in and come out worse? There has to be a better answer for both the people who need to be reformed and those of us who are funding it. It there was a deterent to committing a crime of any type which was more than a hot meal and a few free tattoos... maybe we wouldn't have career criminals.
I think the prison system needs a lot of reform, especially with drug addicts, they don't need prison, they need rehab. I don't think, though, that the death penalty should only be used in cases that involve murder, especially not drug charges or petty theft. Just my $.02.
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Old April 30th, 2010, 10:42 AM   #87
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I love stupid threads like this. why not ask why they are making Porto Rico a state now? I bet it has something to do with getting the Hispanic vote?
99.2% of the population doesn't even know that happened yesterday. (they were not granted statehood....yet)
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what about changing the system so they aren't wasting your hard earned tax dollars living in prison? It must be very libertarian of me to believe that a person should be able to do to their body what they want. IF they end up od'ing, fine, but I don't think you should be able to kill or imprison somebody because they do drugs and get caught. If they are endangering the lives of somebody else while they are doing it, (ie driving a car) that's a different story.
Drug addicts cost tax payers money for more than just prison cells.

Legalizing drugs is Libertarian in that it promotes individual freedom, but that is only half of the story. The other half is taking personal responsibility for your actions. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.

So, being mostly Libertarian in my views, I agree with you that drugs should be legal, but I also think that those who make the choice to use them are responsible for the result of their own behavior.

That is where we part ways, because I don't think you would be ok with leaving homeless, starving, drug addicts to die in the streets because they made the choice of buying drugs over food, shelter, or medical care.

It is a modern Liberal, or progressive if you like, that wants to legalize drugs and then care for the drug addicted with tax payer dollars. That, sir, is you.
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And we took that shit fair and square. A bunch of native chiefs didn't sit around a campfire and decide it would be politically strategic to let it happen. If Mexicans want to take our land by force, and our politicians were not a bunch of traitorous pussies, they wouldn't stand a chance.
Said just like a felon ,used car salesman would .

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Old April 30th, 2010, 10:59 AM   #90
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Drug addicts cost tax payers money for more than just prison cells.

Legalizing drugs is Libertarian in that it promotes individual freedom, but that is only half of the story. The other half is taking personal responsibility for your actions. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.

So, being mostly Libertarian in my views, I agree with you that drugs should be legal, but I also think that those who make the choice to use them are responsible for the result of their own behavior.

That is where we part ways, because I don't think you would be ok with leaving homeless, starving, drug addicts to die in the streets because they made the choice of buying drugs over food, shelter, or medical care.

It is a modern Liberal, or progressive if you like, that wants to legalize drugs and then care for the drug addicted with tax payer dollars. That, sir, is you.
that sir, is where you are wrong. If a person chooses to take drugs, then they can live with the consequences. I'm not interested in caring for drug addicts with my tax dollars. Since we already are, though, I think rehab would be a better choice than prison.
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Old April 30th, 2010, 11:02 AM   #91
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Said just like a felon ,used car salesman would .
Oh, i'm sorry, does reality bother you?
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that sir, is where you are wrong. If a person chooses to take drugs, then they can live with the consequences. I'm not interested in caring for drug addicts with my tax dollars. Since we already are, though, I think rehab would be a better choice than prison.
Since we are changing one law, drug laws, then change that law also.
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Oh, i'm sorry, does reality bother you?
felon's bother me as much as illegal immigrant's and baby rapist's

Shit from the posts in this thread I bet if You ask Your on most people's kill list.
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Old April 30th, 2010, 11:09 AM   #94
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Since we are changing one law, drug laws, then change that law also.
sounds good.
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felon's bother me as much as illegal immigrant's and baby rapist's

Shit from the posts in this thread I bet if You ask Your on most people's kill list.
Instead of acting like a moron, why don't you give thoughtful responses to my quotes you apparently disagree with. Otherwise, go find some third graders to debate, they'll appreciate your mentality.
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Instead of acting like a moron, why don't you give thoughtful responses to my quotes you apparently disagree with. Otherwise, go find some third graders to debate, they'll appreciate your mentality.
Are felons even allowed to vote?
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Are felons even allowed to vote?
Yes, and you are a moron, aren't you? All I want to know is, what color lipstick do you wear when you're working on your "kill list"? LMAO
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Yes, and you are a moron, aren't you? All I want to know is, what color lipstick do you wear when you're working on your "kill list"? LMAO
I don't have a kill list but some in this thread do( see post 72) Thats why I said that .

I'm smart enough not to be a felon that shit follows You for life. Can You say the same? Did Bubba make you wear lipstick in the pen
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I don't have a kill list but some in this thread do Thats why I said that .

I'm smart enough not to be a felon that shit follows You for life. Can You say the same?
How did you obtain this information, that people in this thread have kill lists? Are you delusional, or just bored? Your great accomplishment in life is not being a felon? Congratulations. Apparently it's not your xj that has the disorder. Did you have any thoughtful responses to any of my posts regarding the subject of this thread? Or, is your simpleton mind limited to lame attempts at insults?
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How did you obtain this information, that people in this thread have kill lists?post 72 in this thread Are you delusional, or just bored? Your great accomplishment in life is not being a felon? Congratulations. Apparently it's not your xj that has the disorder. Did you have any thoughtful responses to any of my posts regarding the subject of this thread? Or, is your simpleton mind limited to lame attempts at insults?
You want to hear that I think immigrants should go home . Maybe have a few Years in jail and if You get caught here You can never come here legally .

Do I think We should hunt them down and send them back YES but I don't think we should kill them.

And how is calling You something You are insalting You? If You don't like to hear about it You shouldn't have done it or talked about it on an open internet forum.

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