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Old April 20th, 2010, 07:28 PM   #1
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Default Water softeners...which one?

Yes, I did search google first, but nothing seams to be good info. I did a search here and came up with this thread.....what I have found/read is that the saltless water "softeners" are for the most part junk and don't work if you've got really hard water. The "soften" portion requires salt, and all these really do is prevent scale build up in your pipes...but unlike most I'm not an expert after I read it on the web

But I'm still virtually lost....just bought a new house, and we've got both hard water and iron/iron bacteria in it. I'm having the water tested on thursday, but I'm pretty sure it's quite hard.

I'm not sure on sizing, but it's a 2.5 bath house, with myself/better half living there. Aside from a few showers a day, a load or two in the washer/week, random car wash's and a gallon or two per day for cooking/consumption, we won't be using a ton of water - but I don't want to be undersized either.

I called Culligan and had the same 3500 pitch thrown to me that "barry1me" had. I've heard numerous good things about kinetico, but that's big $$ as well. Most people I talk to with a kenmore set up say that it goes bad after a few years, and I'd rather spend 1k-1.5k now to have something that lasts. I have no trouble doing the install, I just don't know what kind/brand to get......

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Old April 20th, 2010, 07:45 PM   #2
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we have had our kinetico for around... 14 years now, and still running strong.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 08:41 PM   #3
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we went with the kinetico back in 2000 in part due to the fact that it's water pressure powered - no electrical parts. our model also only uses 9 gallons of water per backflush which with Fenton's expensive water/sewer rates was a concern.

at the time it was 1850 installed with a 10 year warranty.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 05:06 PM   #5
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Thanks for the reply's...the initial kinetico estimates are around 3K...comming out Sat for a "free" water sample test, we'll see how that goes.

Anyone ever dealt with Wolverine in Lansing?
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Anything with a Fleck valve and you can't go wrong.

Get one at a wholesale joint for around $700, then put it in yourself or pay a friend to do it.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 08:54 PM   #7
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I bought a Kenmore from my local Sears store. Bought one size bigger than they recommended, and have not had a problem.
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Thanks for the reply's...the initial kinetico estimates are around 3K...comming out Sat for a "free" water sample test, we'll see how that goes.

Anyone ever dealt with Wolverine in Lansing?
Lansing to Ann Arbor?

I can't remember the name of the place that put ours in - but it is or was on old23 just north of M59 in Hartland.
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Call Joe Spencer of Spencer Soft Water. He'll install and or sell he's been in the business for almost his whole life and has kept my dad's softener going for 25+ years for little to no money. Call him at 1-248-521-2051 he is in the process of becoming completely mobile to cut his prices by removing overhead.
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We used Rainsoft equipment commercially at a banquet facility where I worked years ago, and when my Wolverine died 6 or 7 years ago we had a residential Rainsoft system installed at the house. It was not cheap, $3k or so like the other ones you priced, but it works and tames our extremely hard water w/high iron & sulfur content. Our well water is orange-underwear rusty without the softener.
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I bought a Kenmore from my local Sears store. Bought one size bigger than they recommended, and have not had a problem.
Work with an old plumber, he swears by Sears softeners best deal for the money.
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I have been reading good stuff about the CLACK WS1 and the Fleck 5600 water softeners. These looks like good solutions
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Anything with a Fleck valve and you can't go wrong.

Get one at a wholesale joint for around $700, then put it in yourself or pay a friend to do it.
Fleck valve?
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So for an update here...almost positive I'm going with a Clack WS1. Everything I've read about it is positive...still working on sizing it and potentially doing some type of filter for sulfur/iron. I'll update this when I get it done/installed so there will be some type of valuable info about yet another random topic on here
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Ended up with a twin tank fleck 9100...up and running, works great, used maybe a bag of salt in an entire month...maybe. That's with water that has a 35 grain hardness and 2ppm...if you've got really hard water, a twin tank is where it's at...and you can get them around 800 off-line if you look...
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I was just checking out this thread. my softener has gone belly up. its a twin tank Braswell and has ceased to function. anyone got any leads on where to buy new? or at least have this one redone?
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Ended up with a twin tank fleck 9100...up and running, works great, used maybe a bag of salt in an entire month...maybe. That's with water that has a 35 grain hardness and 2ppm...if you've got really hard water, a twin tank is where it's at...and you can get them around 800 off-line if you look...
I have heard great things about the Fleck. Where did you purchase from? Did you install it?
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I have heard great things about the Fleck. Where did you purchase from? Did you install it?
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I ended up getting a Fleck 5600 SXT. SO far its working great
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