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Old August 1st, 2006, 10:18 PM   #1
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I believe username has a TBI 5.2, non magnum. Not entirely sure. PM him.
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Does anyone know how different Magnum engines are?
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Does anyone know how different Magnum engines are?
I know when I go to the party store to buy magnums, that I have to spend .48 cents more per pack then you.
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The heads are different and some oiling passages. I'm sure there are more differances but off the top of my head those are two.
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The heads are different and some oiling passages. I'm sure there are more differances but off the top of my head those are two.
I meant at the mount and bellhousing bolt pattern level.
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I think they are the same but the exhaust ports are different (exhaust no worky). I'm not sure on the cps location or if the old one had one or not????
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You would be way better off finding a magnum 5.2 or 5.9 of the same year. Dodge likes to change wiring alot, not a huge deal but a matching year would be ideal.

Look into beater Dodge vans for the best deals. You can get a van for less than a motor in most cases.
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Hmmm... Manifolds would be included, but who knows if they would fit the unibody. Rams have a lot of space.
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What year is the Jeep?

Not sure on the "collector" location on the magnum/non magnum. The ports are different.
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The block itself won't be any different. The 318 and 360 are interchangeable. I dropped a 2002 Dodge Ram 360 into my '96 ZJ in place of the 318 that was in it. I used the 318 intake though to keep all the sensors from the 318. I still used the Mopar 5.2 performance computer. With the sensors swapped, the computer has no clue there is a 360 in there instead of the 318. The 318 is internally balanced, whereas the 360 is externally balanced. I had already upgraded to a balanced torque converter, so there were no issues there for me. But, they do make a weight kit to balance the TC that came behind the 318 to make it useable with the 360. I have one sitting in the barn somewhere that I didn't need to use. I had to reuse the Jeep exhaust manifolds too. The Ram manifolds had the drop to attach to the y-pipe to far back and hit the firewall. I have some extra manifolds in the barn as well, but the stock Jeep manifolds will work on either a 318 or a 360 Magnum for all years. The only advantage of the 318 is supposedly it cools easier than the 360, which is why the 5.2 ZJ was rated to tow more than the 5.9 ZJ's.
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See what I mean low ball these guys and you are set. Assuming it is a V8.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/173195105.html

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My dad has a 5.2 from a 89 conversion van,can hear run,$350.firm for the engine,I have a 5.2 out of a 95 dodge truck,It runs,I dont know if it was burning anti freeze or if the water pump was just leaking,you can hear this one run also,good for rebuild,$100.10 min.from Milan 49229
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Does anyone know how different Magnum engines are?
Magnums are all the same 92-current. Non magnums have different heads, oiling passages, and no CPS.
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this seems to describe the differences in the block itself.

from popularhotrodding.com

So, what distinguishes the Magnum from the earlier LA engines? The Magnum series engines were not tically different than the LA series, but rather a significant revision. Essentially, the blocks are the same as the earlier 318 and 360, with the major change being an additional set of mounting bosses on each side of the block to work with the truck motor mount system. The original small-block “ear” style lugs were retained as well, so there is no interchangeability issue there. Another change is in the rear main-cap rail that the oil pan seals to. The 340 and smaller LA engines used a rear main cap with a different oil pan sealing rail than the 360, so the oil pans and end seals did not interchange. With the Magnum, the 5.2 was standardized to accept the same pan as the 360.

for more info reguarding the 318 magnum, and magnum head retrofit...
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec..._engine_specs/
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Unfortunately, the PHR quote is for swapping Magnum engine where non Magnum engines where, not the other way around. So the mount system and CPS will still make it more trouble than it is worth to swap a early engine where a Magnum was.
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Well - I ended up ordering a reman from engines direct for a good price bc i have the connections!!

Hopefully this weekend I can get it to Alpena, tear out the motor, come back to GB, the engine should get in Alpena monday or tuesday and my brother and his buddies can have it in before sunday next week...
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thats what i was going to recomend. did you stay with a 5.2 or upgrade to the 5.9?
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stayed with the 5.2 bc of time conditions and ease of matching everything up...i think my jeep will perform better with a clean and newer motor!
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