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View Poll Results: What driveline do you think I should run?
Original 225 v6 16 19.51%
vortec 4.3 v6, 700r4,208 6 7.32%
383 stroker,700r4,D300 26 31.71%
4.7 Stroker, to keep her all Jeep 11 13.41%
All hail the 440, who doesn't love a Big Block Mopar! 23 28.05%
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Old April 19th, 2010, 11:36 AM   #1
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Finally got her! picked it up from kmas here on the site. She's not quite home yet, I hiding it up here at school with me til the semester is over then its time to break it to mom that another Jeep will be in her driveway. that's going to be fun anyway.

I'm not sure where I'm going to go with this just yet what do you guys think.

-keep the original driveline
- 4.3 v6 behind the 700r4 and 208 I have
- 383 stroker, 700r4, D300
- 401
- 4.7 stroker
- or if anyone wants to donate a 440 That wins hands down

I'm plannin a full float D60 rear and prob a 44 front unless I keep the original driveline which wouldn't need the big axles.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 11:48 AM   #2
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Old April 19th, 2010, 11:50 AM   #3
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Do you want to keep it original or really go for something more stout and "modern."
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:08 PM   #4
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I really wanted this thing but I had no where to put it

If I would have bought it I more than likely would have stuck with the dauntless, but I really liked the idea of a 4.7l stroker in it as well.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:12 PM   #5
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Truth be told I'm up in the air with it,
the old man is trying to talk me into the 4.3 since it would be the smallest in terms of size so fitting it in the little bay would be easiest, plus then it would be injected and make enough power to get it through stuff all hail gearing. I have a tbi 350 that I was thinkin of makin into a 383 which is where that option came from. Little more work to get it to fit but the power could be worth it. I have this pipe dream of keeping it jeep/mopar since so many have had the chevy treatment. The 4.7 stroker would be injected and from what I hear they make some good torque. Only problem with that option is the 4.0 is a long friggin engine for that short engine bay. It'd take alot of massaging to get her to fit. The 225 original could be cool since it is original and from what I hear they were potent little engines back in the day. could be fun to run with that. The 440 is my ultimate pipe dream, I dont care if its injected or not or how much work it would be to fit it, lots of power to make stupid decisions and break stuff and hey u can say it has a 440. but unless someone knows of one hidden away somewhere for cheap There's no way I could afford this. I am still at the stage when lots of power and noise and reckless abandonment beat out well actually thinking logically

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I think a 440 would be overkill. They are boat anchors unless built, and you'll want a very stout drivetrain to back that up.

If you want to keep it all Jeep, my pick would be a 4.7 I6. Have you considered any other Mopar small block V8s? 5.2/5.9, 4.7?
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:32 PM   #7
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I voted stroker. It will make more than sufficient power. If you build it right hp/tq will be about on par with a small-block Mopar.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:41 PM   #8
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383ci setup

cheap to build correctly, cheap to maintain, very usable powerband


700r4

OVERDRIVE......nuff said
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:44 PM   #9
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None of the above! I would do either a 5.3 or 6.0. You can't beat beat fuel injection!
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yeah like I said ultimate pipe dream but I can't afford it, I haven't looked into other small blocks too much truth b told I wouldn't have anything against them. 5.9 would get the job done with a little massaging
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cheap to build correctly, cheap to maintain, very usable powerband


700r4

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The overdrive would be a beautiful thing theres no way around that. Thats why if I build a chevy it will prob have one of those behind it, well the over drive and the fact that I already have one
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Since you already have it go with a motor that will mate to it.
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None of the above! I would do either a 5.3 or 6.0. You can't beat beat fuel injection!
I could do a 6.0, problem is how much would that cost? The 383 I already have the engine and a 4.0 would be easy to get.
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Since you already have it go with a motor that will mate to it.
yeah I have the 350 bolted to it that I was toying with makin a 383 out of and I'm told the 4.3 will bolt up.
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keep the 225, box the frame, spring over and lockers, maybe axle upgrade.
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yeah like I said ultimate pipe dream but I can't afford it, I haven't looked into other small blocks too much truth b told I wouldn't have anything against them. 5.9 would get the job done with a little massaging
A FI 360 from a zj would also be an acceptable swap imo. I really like the Idea of the dauntless though.
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I say you yank the drive train out of the green panel wagon.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 10:06 AM   #18
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keep the 225 and build it or do a GN 3.8 turbo motor (bolts up to the oe trans)

V8 is overkill and the I6 will be a huge headache.
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keep the 225 and build it or do a GN 3.8 turbo motor (bolts up to the oe trans)

V8 is overkill and the I6 will be a huge headache.
I concurr, the 225 can be built to be quite a V8 eater, or a later model 231 could be plopped in.

If you must go V8, go all the way with a 455 Buick...and a long-nose CJ front clip
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It looks like a unmolested original, which there's not many of anymore.

Most have long since had the original driveline pulled and have a sbc/slushbox combo just like 9 out of 10 Chevrolets I see at cruise night (and of those 10, 7 are red, 1 is silver, 1 is black, and 1 is white. lol)

I think swapping a straight six would be a headache, so installing lockers (richmond makes nice road friendly lockers), some frame reinforcements (are you good at welding? if not, find someone who is. I've seen some scary welds on stuff....) and maybe a few mild parts for the 225, and you'd be golden by the looks of it.

My favorite thing is "day two" musclecars (restored... kind of...) where they're restored and any modifications are done with period correct parts. This easily translates to jeeps and anything. Your Jeep looks pretty good, so maybe it'd be a "survivor day two" Jeep. Plus it'd save you cost of a paintjob.

As for the carbs vs FI, so long as you don't run too crazy of an angle you'll be fine. They're not that hard to tune, it's kind of a lost art sadly enough. At least you can fix it on the side of the road unlike a modern FI engine, where a sensor goes bad and you're SOL or the electronic throttle pedal sensor goes AWOL and you have 'toyota crash syndrome'.
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