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Old April 11th, 2010, 11:15 AM   #1
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GR Press this morning.
Hurray, if you're a posie sniffer, backpacker or a logger, welcome to the Forest.
I was just thru there last Sunday. Oh well.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 11:18 AM   #2
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Is this what your talkin about
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Isn't it great that they have to "cut, thin and burn" to make a natural habitat?
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Old April 11th, 2010, 12:43 PM   #5
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"cutting, burning and thinning timber "
Help me out here if you can, PLEASE.
I must be very confused in my thinking, but, wouldn't cutting stuff back or down and removing it by some means
(fire, chipper, selling it off) then burning the grasses totally annihilate any of the precious blue butterflies in the areas where this is done
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I have one more question...
Can loop hole to this loss of access be found in the ADA?
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Two Trackers, GLFWDA, and United all submitted substantive comments during the Scoping phase of this project (Yet another great reason to join one or all of these fine organizations. They could REALLY use your help). I can attach them if there's interest.

The next opportunity to comment is expected around June. If you don't like what you're reading, please think strongly about contacting the Baldwin Ranger District (231) 745-4631, asking to be placed on the mailing list for this project and submitting comments at the appropriate time. While you have them on the phone, I also suggest you ask to be place on the list to receive the "SOPA" (Schedule Of Proposed Actions). The SOPA is a quarterly list of everything the NFS plans to do during the next quarter.

Even more important than this project is to closely monitor where ALL of the future KBB habitat will be created. The best way to affect those locations is to be a part of the volunteer group conducting the KBB population surveys for the NFS. GLFWDA is currently seeking 4x4 oriented volunteers for the KBB count to ensure that we are represented and have the maximum amount of input possible. If you would be willing to assist with this project please call GLFWDA Land Use Committee member Jeff Traynor at (616) 318-6754.
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Left message to get info.
I went to the area to see what was closed off and even though I am not familiar where these paths led, I assume they all involved either erosion, puddles or hills. I did not expect to see the massive undertaking involved closing off meadows and such.
There are some pretty cool vistas overlooking the White and now I guess you'll have to be a backpacker to see them.
If you close everything off, does it not make the area nothing but a private nursery for the logging industry on our dime in reality(other than maybe 50 LLBean hikers)?
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If you close everything off, does it not make the area nothing but a private nursery for the logging industry on our dime in reality(other than maybe 50 LLBean hikers)?

Actually, the area is also designated as "Old Growth" too.
So, once the planted pines are harvested, the loggers won't be allowed in there either!
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I see by the SOPA that they're cutting 400 acres of scotch pine for "fuel elimination" and to control invasive species in the White Cloud area, among others.
This could be their new mantra for extensive closures all over the place, making taxpayers the true invasive species!
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I'm tired of just bitching about all of this.
TF... see you at the GLFWDA quartly on Sunday!
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where they are closing is where we camp and there is a canoe/kayak put in take out area that will be shut down also. How can we enjoy the outdoors? Should be at Sundays meeting also.......
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