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Old April 21st, 2010, 02:37 PM   #1
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I'm a rookie at all this cage building. Can I notch tubing w/o a tube notcher? if so, how? If not, where dyou find them? I have a grinder, metal cutter, welder, and air equipment. Let me know.
I'm not building a whole cage just adding to my existing cage.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 02:39 PM   #2
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plasma cutter + grinder.

chop saw + grinder
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Old April 21st, 2010, 02:39 PM   #3
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Old April 21st, 2010, 02:41 PM   #4
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chop saw notching:

Chop saw notching 101 (With pictures) - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board


using a printed template:

http://metalgeek.com/static/cope.pcgi

chinese tools lovers method:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42324

just spend the damn money and it'll last a long time notcher:

http://www.jd2.com/shop/custom.aspx?recid=3

I'm too good for toilet paper tube notcher tool:

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Old April 21st, 2010, 02:59 PM   #5
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I use a pipe master for the tricky ones, band saw and marker for most others and the mill with a roughing cutter for the perfect fit and repeat joints.

I dont own a "notcher" and I dont plan to get one.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 03:12 PM   #6
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I use a pipe master for the tricky ones, band saw and marker for most others and the mill with a roughing cutter for the perfect fit and repeat joints.

I dont own a "notcher" and I dont plan to get one.
Well obvioulsy, you have other tools that make having a notcher uncessary like an mill with cutter that's many times more expensive than a notcher.

That's like saying I won't buy a hack saw, I'd rather use either my portaband, horizonal bandsaw, vertical bandsaw, or my shark with a laser strapped to its head.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 03:46 PM   #7
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True, but I use a $200 4x6 horizontal/vertical band saw 10x more than any other tool for notching combined.

During my buggy build so far I've probably done 14 notches on the mill and 8 of those were the 90 degree uprights from the rocker to the belt line. I used the pipe master 4 times so far and every other notch has been with the band saw.

Even without the mill I wouldnt buy a notcher.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 03:55 PM   #8
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i got a harbor freight notcher for christmas and so far it works really good. i just need better hole saws.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 07:26 PM   #9
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i got a harbor freight notcher for christmas and so far it works really good. i just need better hole saws.
slow your drill speed down...alot...and use cutting oil, atf if your cheap about it or cant find a decent cutting oil

I have one as well, and after a few modifications it works decent...it was not alinged very well when I first got it (ok, the alignment was not worth a shit at all) so I fixed taht, then welded a piece of angle where the tube gets clamped into for a better hold on the tube, and to get it actually centered, and then it worked decent...there is still too much slop in the bushing to get a good clean cut, but its close and works just fine

I usually use the chopsaw or band saw though, and then finish it with a grinder...not that I do alot with tubeing though
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Old April 21st, 2010, 08:16 PM   #10
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i got a harbor freight notcher for christmas and so far it works really good. i just need better hole saws.
x2. No problems with mine. Just take it slow.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 03:08 AM   #11
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i got a harbor freight notcher for christmas and so far it works really good. i just need better hole saws.
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slow your drill speed down...alot...and use cutting oil, atf if your cheap about it or cant find a decent cutting oil

I have one as well, and after a few modifications it works decent...it was not alinged very well when I first got it (ok, the alignment was not worth a shit at all) so I fixed taht, then welded a piece of angle where the tube gets clamped into for a better hold on the tube, and to get it actually centered, and then it worked decent...there is still too much slop in the bushing to get a good clean cut, but its close and works just fine

I usually use the chopsaw or band saw though, and then finish it with a grinder...not that I do alot with tubeing though
yup we used a HF notcher for the cage in my XJ. with a little tweeking it worked great.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 05:22 PM   #12
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Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll use my Dremel. No not really.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 09:45 PM   #13
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using a printed template:

http://metalgeek.com/static/cope.pcgi

x2

I use these and my 4.5" angle grinder and get perfect fits on the notches. Rough cut with cutoff disk, then clean it up with a flap disk, I have 2 grinders, so I don't have to keep switches wheels.

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Can I notch tubing w/o a tube notcher? if so, how? If not, where dyou find them? I have a grinder, metal cutter, welder, and air equipment. Let me know.
I'm not building a whole cage just adding to my existing cage.
Yes. What kind of "metal cutter" do you have - gas torch, plasma, sawzall?
Are you replacing tubes or just adding new ones?
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Old April 26th, 2010, 03:44 PM   #15
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Bandsaw + 4.5" grinder, unless you have alot of them to do.
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Old April 26th, 2010, 04:02 PM   #16
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I used a horizontal band saw, the pipmaster tool, hand grinder, and a carbide burr.

Band saw to take majority of the material out, than hand grinder do do clean up, than carbide burr to get a nice smooth finish.
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Irishjeeper - Cutting the notch on one end is only part of the problem. As you know, when you add a tube to your existing cage, you must fit both ends. To do this you need to know 3 things: the shape of each end cut, the orientation of the end cuts to each other (won't fit if you twist your cuts even just a couple degrees), and the exact overall length of the tube. If the tube fits well its easy to weld. What I am trying to say is that knowing WHERE to cut is (IMO) more important than HOW you cut it.
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Old April 26th, 2010, 10:36 PM   #18
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chop saw notching:

Chop saw notching 101 (With pictures) - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board


using a printed template:

http://metalgeek.com/static/cope.pcgi

chinese tools lovers method:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42324

just spend the damn money and it'll last a long time notcher:

http://www.jd2.com/shop/custom.aspx?recid=3

I'm too good for toilet paper tube notcher tool:

http://www.pipemastertools.com/viewall.html
better yet im to good for toilet paper notcher
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