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Old March 19th, 2010, 08:46 AM   #1
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Default 5.4L 3V spark plug removal.........

Anyone did a tune up on a 3V 5.4L yet? I heard the plugs are known for breaking off in the head?
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Old March 19th, 2010, 08:46 AM   #2
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I thought that was only an issue with the 2 valve?
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Old March 19th, 2010, 08:52 AM   #3
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Same issues with the 3V.

Go here http://www.f150online.com/forums/200...k-07screw.html Very good info/horror storys on this site.

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just some common sense has to be used when changing the plugs, use antiseeze, make sure heads are cool etc....
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SPARK PLUG REMOVAL INSTRUCTIONS—5.4 3V TSB 06-15-2


http://www.etoolcart.com/06152.pdf
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We have done a few, just did an 06 with 80k. 7 out of 8 broke off. We have the tool to extract them and it's not a bad job just labor intensive.
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We have done a few, just did an 06 with 80k. 7 out of 8 broke off. We have the tool to extract them and it's not a bad job just labor intensive.
Do you make house calls

07 5.4 47,000 miles
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07 5.4 47,000 miles
It would be wise to do it now and put the plugs in that are a one piece design instead of the two-piece pressed together ones.
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Are the SP 507's a one piece or just a revised plug?
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We have done a few, just did an 06 with 80k. 7 out of 8 broke off. We have the tool to extract them and it's not a bad job just labor intensive.
how long did it take to do the whole job? When the plug breaks off how do you keep from debri getting in the cylinder?
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It takes me about 5 hrs to do the job but probably took closer to 8 the first time.

The tool I use pushes the porcelain deeper in the plug almost all the way to the ground strap, then a different tool threads into to shell that is left in the head so it can be pulled out. Not much falls into the cylinder and I use a small air powered vacuum to clean the top of the piston if needed.


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It takes me about 5 hrs to do the job but probably took closer to 8 the first time.

The tool I use pushes the porcelain deeper in the plug almost all the way to the ground strap, then a different tool threads into to shell that is left in the head so it can be pulled out. Not much falls into the cylinder and I use a small air powered vacuum to clean the top of the piston if needed.


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That does not look fun.....Is this something that someone who is decently mechanically inclined can do? What would you charge someone to do a plug change on a 3V motor?
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just some common sense has to be used when changing the plugs, use antiseeze, make sure heads are cool etc....
Would not do this...



May want to check out the videos from

http://www.flatratetech.com/index.php?categoryid=4

If you look toward the bottom of the page, there is a video with all the info you need to do a plug change on a 3-valve Ford 5.4L...

I didn't want to screw with mine and as it turned out, 3 broke. It cost me $200 plus plugs, but at least I didn't have to spend the day in the garage cursing and freaking out...
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Wow, that looks like a nightmare, way to go Fords.
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yes like stated above make sure heads are cool enough to touch, not super hot or cold. i didn't say ice cold above either just cool enough to touch
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ok so from what I understand the top part of the porcellen(sp) and the threaded insert comes out typically, its the bottom part that doesnt come out easily. This doesnt look as terrible now that I watched that video...l
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If you run good top end fuel injector cleaner through the fuel system it cleans the tips of the plugs and they come out alot easier. Not saying they wont break but is helps.
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anyone intersted in helping me do my plugs!
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anyone got a spark plug kit they dont mind letting someone borrow? If not I think im going to purchase the lisle kit
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It takes me about 5 hrs to do the job but probably took closer to 8 the first time.

The tool I use pushes the porcelain deeper in the plug almost all the way to the ground strap, then a different tool threads into to shell that is left in the head so it can be pulled out. Not much falls into the cylinder and I use a small air powered vacuum to clean the top of the piston if needed.


Here is what the plug looks like:



Here is how they come out:

so do you use the rotundra kit or a kit like lisle? have you ever had to pull a head on a 3 valve because you couldnt get the ground strap out?
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