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Old March 17th, 2010, 03:48 PM   #101
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It's weird that we were just talking about this the other day. Mike told me he read a statistic that said that each year there are 25k babies given up for adoption but there are almost 1 million couples looking to adopt.

I lean towards the pro life movement except in very rare circumstances like rape, incest (which is also often rape), and the life of the mother being threatened by the pregnancy.
I feel like if you make one mistake and you have an abortion you can be forgiven and it's between you and your god (and your doctor- who doesnt deserve to be killed- for all your weirdo fanatics). If you make two mistakes and have two abortions you should be sterilized. You are clearly unable to make good decisions. If you are on assistance I think you should agree to have a norplant or some other birth control device that is good for approximately 5 years and reversible.
I know someone who has three kids from two different daddies and is on assistance for them all. The dads don't pay because they are losers who a rational person would never have procreated with in the first place. The girl in question has also had three abortions, and is pregnant again and trying to decide if she should have an abortion or if she should have the baby. I asked her why she didnt use a condom (not only for pregnancy protection but because this guy probably isnt a disease free responsible person) and she was like well.. we didnt have any and we didnt have any money. So I think about those scenarios and then I think about good people who would give anything to have a baby and who cant.. it all makes me very sick.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 05:16 PM   #102
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I hope they are traumatized. I hope that if/when they are thinking about an abortion they remember the horrible images that they saw and realize what happens to the baby.

I would also assume (yes, just an assumption) that these same people will help them become useful members of society.
Congratulation! You are a perfect fit for a stereotypical self rightious "Christian".

This is the exact mentality that makes me dislike Bible thumpers.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 06:28 PM   #103
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Congratulation! You are a perfect fit for a stereotypical self rightious "Christian".

This is the exact mentality that makes me dislike Bible thumpers.
You're starting to sound like a left winger. We could probably get you an Obama Blow up doll.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 06:41 PM   #104
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Congratulation! You are a perfect fit for a stereotypical self rightious "Christian".

This is the exact mentality that makes me dislike Bible thumpers.
Sorry abortion is disgusting and should leave you with nightmares! . . I'm sorry for the baby!
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Old March 17th, 2010, 07:03 PM   #105
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I truely hope that everyone who is saying that no one should ever have an abortion doesn't have to deal with a woman in their life who is raped and gets pregnant because of it. Actually I would feel really sorry for that woman, not only because she was raped but would then have to deal with you about the pregnancy.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 07:39 PM   #106
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Sorry abortion is disgusting and should leave you with nightmares! . . I'm sorry for the baby!
I find most medical proceedures disgusting. People with your mentality make me feel that abortion should be an option up to the 100th trimester.

So, did you buy the BMW? I thought "Christians" were supposed to live a modest life style? Oh wait, you are a hypocrite. I fogot the two go hand in hand.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:05 PM   #107
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I find most medical proceedures disgusting. People with your mentality make me feel that abortion should be an option up to the 100th trimester.

So, did you buy the BMW? I thought "Christians" were supposed to live a modest life style? Oh wait, you are a hypocrite. I fogot the two go hand in hand.
I agree. I find most disgusting as well but in most cases they are fixing something to help you live longer while abortion is the exact opposite. I'm sorry you would like to kill babies into the 3rd trimester. (there is only three just incase you feel like carrying on an intellectual conversation some day)

And no, I have not bought the Bimmer yet. I have Bugatti wants so yes I am living modest. Now if I say had a "Geo Metro" then I could see where the BMW would be living above my means.

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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:17 PM   #108
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Old March 17th, 2010, 09:15 PM   #109
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I truely hope that everyone who is saying that no one should ever have an abortion doesn't have to deal with a woman in their life who is raped and gets pregnant because of it. Actually I would feel really sorry for that woman, not only because she was raped but would then have to deal with you about the pregnancy.
I truley hope that I never have to deal with anyone being raped, thats a terrible thing and I think we don't punish rapist hard enough.

I also hope I never have to deal with tearing a baby into pieces or burning them to death, becasue I know a baby would never rape anyone.
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I find most medical proceedures disgusting. People with your mentality make me feel that abortion should be an option up to the 100th trimester.

So, did you buy the BMW? I thought "Christians" were supposed to live a modest life style? Oh wait, you are a hypocrite. I fogot the two go hand in hand.
I think we should all now refer to the holocaust as a late term jewish abortion.
We can call it a medical procedure, after all we do surgical bombings.

Also we can make sure we never show any pictures or film of what happen because, like all medical procedures it's disgusting.

We should also take any money that would be used to prevent this from happening again, or any genocide for that matter, and use it to help support the people that want to commit the genocide.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 09:48 PM   #111
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I truely hope that everyone who is saying that no one should ever have an abortion doesn't have to deal with a woman in their life who is raped and gets pregnant because of it. Actually I would feel really sorry for that woman, not only because she was raped but would then have to deal with you about the pregnancy.
So by killing the baby will make everything better? The baby had no say in the matter, just kill it. heartless
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Old March 17th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #112
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I find most medical proceedures disgusting. People with your mentality make me feel that abortion should be an option up to the 100th trimester.

So, did you buy the BMW? I thought "Christians" were supposed to live a modest life style? Oh wait, you are a hypocrite. I fogot the two go hand in hand.
If God blesses a Christian with wealth they are to act like and spend modestly, but the Lord can bless nonbelievers with wealth and its ok to live high on the hog?
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Old March 17th, 2010, 11:36 PM   #113
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I think we should all now refer to the holocaust as a late term jewish abortion.
We can call it a medical procedure, after all we do surgical bombings.

Also we can make sure we never show any pictures or film of what happen because, like all medical procedures it's disgusting.

We should also take any money that would be used to prevent this from happening again, or any genocide for that matter, and use it to help support the people that want to commit the genocide.
Now your talking!
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Old March 18th, 2010, 06:17 AM   #114
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If God blesses a Christian with wealth they are to act like and spend modestly, but the Lord can bless nonbelievers with wealth and its ok to live high on the hog?
I think he mentioned that because there are some biblical teachings about living modestly(from regular jesus, not supply side jesus). Luckily, non-believers don't believe in or worry about those fairy tales, so they are fit to live as they choose.
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Old March 18th, 2010, 06:27 AM   #115
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I truley hope that I never have to deal with anyone being raped, thats a terrible thing and I think we don't punish rapist hard enough.

I also hope I never have to deal with tearing a baby into pieces or burning them to death, becasue I know a baby would never rape anyone.

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So by killing the baby will make everything better? The baby had no say in the matter, just kill it. heartless
I never said that if rape was the case that the woman should always have an abortion... But I believe that the woman should be able to weigh all of her options. If she chooses to keep it, wonderful! But she should also have to right to not keep it if she doesn't want to.
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I never said that if rape was the case that the woman should always have an abortion... But I believe that the woman should be able to weigh all of her options. If she chooses to keep it, wonderful! But she should also have to right to not keep it if she doesn't want to.
So what you are saying is women have the right to kill thier offspring. Would that be the same as if the child was born and two weeks after the mother deciedes she does not wants this child and takes its life in the the crib? Murder is murder in the womb or out of the womb.
Where is the compassion for the unborn? What has the child done to deserve death?
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So what you are saying is women have the right to kill thier offspring. Would that be the same as if the child was born and two weeks after the mother deciedes she does not wants this child and takes its life in the the crib? Murder is murder in the womb or out of the womb.
Where is the compassion for the unborn? What has the child done to deserve death?
First, as it's been mentioned many times before, a lot of us don't see it as a 'child' until after birth. You may not agree with this, but think about it like this, do you have a funeral for a 4-6 week old fetus that is miscarried? See, I wouldn't. You might, but that's where we disagree.


Second, What has the woman (rape victim) done to deserve a parasite spawn of the man who raped her growing in her body?

Third, I know it's hard for you, but take off your anti-abortion glasses and try to see it from the woman's perspective.
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First, as it's been mentioned many times before, a lot of us don't see it as a 'child' until after birth. You may not agree with this, but think about it like this, do you have a funeral for a 4-6 week old fetus that is miscarried? See, I wouldn't. You might, but that's where we disagree.


Second, What has the woman (rape victim) done to deserve a parasite spawn of the man who raped her growing in her body?

Third, I know it's hard for you, but take off your anti-abortion glasses and try to see it from the woman's perspective.
I love how the rape issue is always brought up as a be all end all reason to keep abortion. I would like to see the % of abortions that involve rape. I would think it's very small.
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I am pro choice but I think that abortion should NOT be available to just some dumb ass that doesn't know enough to use birth control and make good choices. But I think it should be allowed if 1. the mother was raped and doesnt want to keep it. 2. There is something very wrong with the baby. 3. It would be life threatening to the mother to carry to full term.

And I agree with mikesova, you men can have your thoughts on the subject but until you have been in the shoes of a woman who was raped or had to make that choice, you really have no clue what its like...
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I love how the rape issue is always brought up as a be all end all reason to keep abortion. I would like to see the % of abortions that involve rape. I would think it's very small.
well, I don't agree with having an abortion outside of extreme circumstances like rape or when the pregnancy endangers the health of the mother. Of course, I don't want to legislate that, either. I am not for eliminating choices.
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