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Old March 18th, 2010, 11:20 AM   #241
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Does see the point in wasting his time. He has tried and will move one and wish the next person luck. I see his point but I bet he still prays for your soul.
So when he tries to sway me toward fairy tales and self deception, he's a fucking hero or something, but when I try to help him see the light that is reality and mortality, i'm an asshole?
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Old March 18th, 2010, 11:22 AM   #242
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So when he tries to sway me toward fairy tales and self deception, he's a fucking hero or something, but when I try to help him see the light that is reality and mortality, i'm an asshole?
you make a good point, but I would agree that you do it in an ass-holish way.
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So when he tries to sway me toward fairy tales and self deception, he's a fucking hero or something, but when I try to help him see the light that is reality and mortality, i'm an asshole?
No, you have every right to continue. You do seem to be assholish when he rejects your thoughts and when he tries to explain his but hey everyone reacts differently.
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and be an asshole to their boyfriends (especially if they have piercings).

My only goal with my childeren is to raise them to be productive members of society.
How do you think that being an asshole to their boyfriends will help them become productive members of society?
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Old March 18th, 2010, 11:53 AM   #245
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How do you think that being an asshole to their boyfriends will help them become productive members of society?
it probably won't, but it would be fun.
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you make a good point, but I would agree that you do it in an ass-holish way.
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No, you have every right to continue. You do seem to be assholish when he rejects your thoughts and when he tries to explain his but hey everyone reacts differently.
I'll admit I waste no effort in politeness, and have no intention of starting. Most of the points I make are skimmed over and not responded to with anything but nonsense and emotional wishes of an afterlife. Kinda reminds me of Brett Baier interviewing obama
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I'll admit I waste no effort in politeness, and have no intention of starting. Most of the points I make are skimmed over and not responded to with anything but nonsense and emotional wishes of an afterlife. Kinda reminds me of Brett Baier interviewing obama
I don't mind. Most of the believers probably think I sound like an asshole for saying that I don't believe in their god because there is no evidence for it or that there is as much evidence for there god as the invisible unicorns in my backyard.
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it probably won't, but it would be fun.
It truly saddens and scares me the number of people that seem to derive pleasure in causing the misery of others. Itís especially sad when itís those that you should love and want to be happy they you are trying to make miserable.

No wonder the world is so F-ed up.
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Old March 18th, 2010, 12:17 PM   #249
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Whatever works for you. I prefer to treat my adult children like adults.
I do, they have rules to follow while living in my house, when they break the rules the pay the price. Just like in the big kids world.
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It truly saddens and scares me the number of people that seem to derive pleasure in causing the misery of others. Itís especially sad when itís those that you should love and want to be happy they you are trying to make miserable.

No wonder the world is so F-ed up.
It's in jest, Bruce. chill. I would probably go out of my way to be nice, since my father in law wasn't exactly warm and inviting.
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I don't know... my parents weren't very strict with me in my teen years and I grew up to be an upstanding gentleman, never did any drugs or got any girls pregnant. I didn't have anything to rebel against, but aren't the kids with the super strict parents the first ones to rebel?
So far, not at my house. My children are exposed to adults on a one on one basis very early, and they are also exposed to strict rules just like the adults in society are. So they learn early on that if you break the rules you have to pay the price, even if that means your grounded at 22.
You are seeing, or hearing a minute part of the overall life at our house, so it sounds different than it really is.
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So far, not at my house. My children are exposed to adults on a one on one basis very early, and they are also exposed to strict rules just like the adults in society are. So they learn early on that if you break the rules you have to pay the price, even if that means your grounded at 22.
You are seeing, or hearing a minute part of the overall life at our house, so it sounds different than it really is.
I feel the exact same way as you do about holding your kids accountable for their actions.
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But what he turned out to be Hindu and you just oredered the steak and eggs? Boy would you be in trouble.
Would I? Really? And if it was the Hindu God would there really be any Steak and eggs? I mean, If it's his place and he feels strongly against Steak and eggs, Why would he have them?

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I don't mind. Most of the believers probably think I sound like an asshole for saying that I don't believe in their god because there is no evidence for it or that there is as much evidence for there god as the invisible unicorns in my backyard.
See, that's the thing. Sova You are, for the most part, pretty polite when it comes to things. Mishow, You aren't. By that post alone I can tell you that talking to you about these things is pointless because you don't care about what I, or anyone else, believes or why they do. You stick with the Stereotype that you learned from somewhere else. I, and many others, have given you solid reasons and backings for the Christian Faith and why things are the way they are but you won't except them. It's probably a Very Wise thing for Aber to Ignore you because unless you want to acutally listen there is no point in "throwing your a bone" when you make wild accusations that really have no bearing in Christian Theology. :Shurg:

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Would I? Really? And if it was the Hindu God would there really be any Steak and eggs? I mean, If it's his place and he feels strongly against Steak and eggs, Why would he have them?
Well I hope he doesn't turn out to be Jewish or Muslim. I really like ham and cheese omelets for breakfast.
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You are seeing, or hearing a minute part of the overall life at our house, so it sounds different than it really is.
I figured that, which is why I've withheld futher comment. If it works for you and your family, great.
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Would I? Really? And if it was the Hindu God would there really be any Steak and eggs? I mean, If it's his place and he feels strongly against Steak and eggs, Why would he have them?





See, that's the thing. Sova You are, for the most part, pretty polite when it comes to things. Mishow, You aren't. By that post alone I can tell you that talking to you about these things is pointless because you don't care about what I, or anyone else, believes or why they do. You stick with the Stereotype that you learned from somewhere else. I, and many others, have given you solid reasons and backings for the Christian Faith and why things are the way they are but you won't except them. It's probably a Very Wise thing for Aber to Ignore you because unless you want to acutally listen there is no point in "throwing your a bone" when you make wild accusations that really have no bearing in Christian Theology. :Shurg:

As nicely as I can say this, I don't listen to what you or anyone else tells me about how great jesus is anymore than i'd contemplate what a crack dealer is trying to convince me of. I'm not relaying a stereotype I learned anywhere, i'm giving you my honest opinion that anybody with any kind of religion in my mind is weak minded and ill equipped to deal with the real world and uses it as a coping mechanism, or they know they're full of shit and in it for a profit or attention. I don't really care about anyones intentions, because to me, religious people have copped out of reality and are therefore weak. That does not mean some of them don't do good for others, it just means they could do that on their own without the delusions.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't 47>45?
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As nicely as I can say this, I don't listen to what you or anyone else tells me about how great jesus is anymore than i'd contemplate what a crack dealer is trying to convince me of. I'm not relaying a stereotype I learned anywhere, i'm giving you my honest opinion that anybody with any kind of religion in my mind is weak minded and ill equipped to deal with the real world and uses it as a coping mechanism, or they know they're full of shit and in it for a profit or attention. I don't really care about anyones intentions, because to me, religious people have copped out of reality and are therefore weak. That does not mean some of them don't do good for others, it just means they could do that on their own without the delusions.
Yeah, thank God that he was there helping me get those job, go to college, graduate and get another job. God helps those that help themselves but your right, I would just be in the gutter if it wasn't for him because my mind is so week that is all I could probably handle.

Great logic you present there
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God had nothing to do with it. You got jobs, so do non-believers. You went to college. So do non believers. Some of us even learn to use an s at the end of words that need them, know the difference between your and you're and how to spell the word weak. If it was god dragging your ass through college, it seems like he was holding out on you.
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God had nothing to do with it. You got jobs, so do non-believers. You went to college. So do non believers. Some of us even learn to use an s at the end of words that need them, know the difference between your and you're and how to spell the word weak. If it was god dragging your ass through college, it seems like he was holding out on you.
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