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View Poll Results: Which Diesel?
Ford with Powerstroke 19 15.20%
Ford with Cummins 18 14.40%
Ram with Cummins 51 40.80%
GM with Duramax 30 24.00%
Other 7 5.60%
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Old March 15th, 2010, 11:23 AM   #81
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here is a nice 99 f350 4x4,low miles leather and a stick.i have been watching it on ebay and it is at 7 grand...sure it will go for more but nice truck..
That is just like the one I plan on looking at this coming weekend. In columbus , mi?
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This truck?

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthr...t=ford+cummins

I saw the pics before they were removed and it looked nice, but the blown turbo is kinda iffy. It could be as simple as just replacing the turbo, but if any shrapnel made it into the engine, you could be in for big problems. I see where he mentioned that no shavings made it past the intercooler, but you'd really have to make sure.
Yes that is it. Something does seem a little iffy about it, but for the right price I could buy it.
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If I end up with a diesel and it needs injectors, how much is that going to cost?

I know it costs about $4000 at the dealer but that is at the dealer, what do they cost aftermarket?

And what other high dollar items are subject to go out? Lift pump? What else?
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Old March 15th, 2010, 11:45 AM   #84
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If I end up with a diesel and it needs injectors, how much is that going to cost?

I know it costs about $4000 at the dealer but that is at the dealer, what do they cost aftermarket?

And what other high dollar items are subject to go out? Lift pump? What else?
On a Duramax:
Injection pump $695-$800

Injectors $1200-$1600
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Old March 15th, 2010, 12:11 PM   #85
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If I end up with a diesel and it needs injectors, how much is that going to cost?

I know it costs about $4000 at the dealer but that is at the dealer, what do they cost aftermarket?

And what other high dollar items are subject to go out? Lift pump? What else?
Duramax and Powerstroke injectors are in a whole other league compared to Cummins injectors price wise. A set of 6 aftermarket injectors for a Cummins can be bought for around $1,000. A set of Powerstroke injectors can run $2,000-$3,000. A set of Duramax injectors can run anywhere from $3000-$5,000. Honestly, I think that's why you see so many more Cummins running around with a set of bigger sticks. On the Duramaxes and Powerstrokes, it's a much bigger investment and people often try to gain the most power they possibly can with a set of stock sticks.

As far as other high dollar items go, injection pumps can cost big money to replace. A VP44 for a 24v Cummins is around a grand. The CP3 pumps aren't cheap either. On the Powerstrokes, a high pressure oil pump (HPOP) can be pretty expensive to replace too.

On a 24v Cummins, an aftermarket lift pump is crucial. The stock lift pump is junk. The vp44 pump will seize up quick if your stock lift pump can't keep up. I have a FASS pump on my truck and they can usually be had for around $500. On any other truck, an aftermarket lift pump is a nice upgrade for the sake of reliability as well as if you plan on making more power.

Although a stock turbo can go for a long time, it's always a good idea at least pull the intake boot and check the compressor wheel fins and look for any shaft play. A new turbo isn't cheap and can really cause a major headache if it blows and sends shrapnel through the motor.

I know you're looking for a truck with a manual trans, but building an auto can cost as much as buying another truck. It's not hard to sink $6,000-$10,000 grand into building a strong trans. I looked at a truck for sale a few months back that had a freshly rebuilt trans with a triple disc converter, billet shafts, billet flex plate and all the other bells and whistles and the guy had over $6000 in receipts from ATS just for parts.
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2001 7.3 with an auto.
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2001 7.3 with an auto.
Why an '01? I'd at least look for a '99 or '00 with forged rods. Not to mention Ford tried to save a couple bucks on the cost of the 4r100 in early '01 by upgrading to a mechanical diode and it proved to be a disaster.
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Why an '01? I'd at least look for a '99 or '00 with forged rods. Not to mention Ford tried to save a couple bucks on the cost of the 4r100 in early '01 by upgrading to a mechanical diode and it proved to be a disaster.
Do all the 99-00 have the forged rods?
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Do all the 99-00 have the forged rods?
'99 yes. Most of the '00 are forged, although some have powdered metal rods. It's pretty easy to check for. If you look behind the oil filter, there is a plug in the block just above the oil pan. Basically when you pull the plug, if you see a nut on the rod bolt, you have forged rods. If you see a bolt head, they're PMRs. I remember seeing a chart of production numbers that distinguished the rod difference as well before. I'll see if I can find it.
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Check your engine serial number on the valve cover build sticker or you need to look at the block where the oil cooler is bolted to it .

Start of production thru 1425746 are Forged Rods
1425747 thru 1440712 are Powdered Rods
1440713 thru 1498318 are Forged Rods
1498319 thru final production run are all powdered
I just found this as well which will show you what to look for if you decide to pull the plug to check:

http://67.19.132.3/dieselinnovations...g2_itemId=1524
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Old March 16th, 2010, 10:16 AM   #91
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i was told 01 was the last year for the rods?
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i was told 01 was the last year for the rods?
Not exactly. It's said that some of the '01s were built with the last of the forged rods, but I wouldn't count on finding one as 99% will have PMRs. The only way you can be absolutely positive is if you find a '99. The '00s have a very good chance, although some had PMRs.
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Cummins Ram seems to be the most popular . . . But i think you would like an I-6 Cummins powered GMC or Jeep J-truck . . .

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trying to talk the guy down on this one.
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here is a nice 99 f350 4x4,low miles leather and a stick.i have been watching it on ebay and it is at 7 grand...sure it will go for more but nice truck..
this is still at 7500 with a day and a half to go...
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trying to talk the guy down on this one.
Wow, that's an awesome looking truck.
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Wow, that's an awesome looking truck.
X2 I like that one and I dont typically care for the old body style.
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this is still at 7500 with a day and a half to go...
Where is it located?
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If I end up with a diesel and it needs injectors, how much is that going to cost?

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depends on the engine - injectors are almost always cheaper aftermarket performance modified for the 7.3L (google Beans performance) - I think you can get a set as low as $650.
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depends on the engine - injectors are almost always cheaper aftermarket performance modified for the 7.3L (google Beans performance) - I think you can get a set as low as $650.
$650? Are you sure you're not looking at just the nozzles? The cheapest Bean has are still $1,000 and they're just remanufactured stock injectors. Every performance injector he has is $1500-$3000.

On the contrary, the most expensive set of injectors he has for the 24v is only $1300 for 240s.
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