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Ford with Powerstroke 19 15.20%
Ford with Cummins 18 14.40%
Ram with Cummins 51 40.80%
GM with Duramax 30 24.00%
Other 7 5.60%
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Old March 8th, 2010, 12:34 PM   #1
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Which one and why?

I have been looking for one and notice most say rebuilt trans, especially the fords or the injectors have been replaced and they were $4000 but covered by the dealer under warranty.

So if I was shopping and wanted a diesel what should I get and what year?

For now I am looking at $20,000 and under.
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Old March 8th, 2010, 12:36 PM   #2
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Stay away from the 6.0 Powerstroke. The worst engine I have ever owned. I had an 05 F350 Crew Cab Long Bed (which coincidentally, you own the Navigation unit out of) that was in the dealer at the very least once a month. 3 different dealers had the cab off that POS 7 times.
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IMHO,
A superduty with the 7.3L & 6 speed manual.
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Old March 8th, 2010, 12:47 PM   #4
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i whould get a ford 7.3 a 03-07 chevy d max or maybe a cummins dodge but if a dodge i whould get a biult or sick shift trans the autos have same work to do yet
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If I were to "build" a new truck, it would be a Ford with a Cummins. I always loved my Super Duties. I just never cared much for the Powerstroke. Don't get me wrong, the 7.3L is an incredibly reliable engine, it just leaves a lot to be desired power wise, especially compared to the newer breed of diesels that have come out in the past few years. And it takes a lot more money and effort to build a 7.3L that really moves. The 6.0 in my opinion is an absolute no go. Some people have had good results with deleting the EGR and installing a set of ARP head studs, but even at that, they can still blow head gaskets.

My dad had an '02 Duramax that he bought brand new, and although the truck was nice and the ride was incredibly smooth, the reliability just wasn't there. It was in the dealership way more than it should have been for a $45,000 truck. He sold the truck with 50,000 miles on it after getting fed up with trans and electrical problems. The Allison kept us from going snowmobiling up north one weekend after it decided not to shift out of first. He took it to the dealership and it ended up being a TCM related problem. Then the dash, windows and locks decided to stop working. Two weeks after he sold it, the trans blew up. I still know the current owner and now with around 80,000 miles, the truck needs a set of injectors.

Right now, I have a 24v 5.9 ext, cab Ram. I actually really like this truck. It's not exactly stock, but with a few bucks invested, it's quick enough to break the tires loose and put you back in your seat. The fuel mileage is night and day compared to my 7.3L. And although you can't beat the reliability of the 5.9L, I still do miss the room I had in my quad cab Super Duty. Hence why I want to build a Super Duty with a Cummins.
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If I were to "build" a new truck, it would be a Ford with a Cummins. I always loved my Super Duties. I just never cared much for the Powerstroke. Don't get me wrong, the 7.3L is an incredibly reliable engine, it just leaves a lot to be desired power wise, especially compared to the newer breed of diesels that have come out in the past few years. And it takes a lot more money and effort to build a 7.3L that really moves. The 6.0 in my opinion is an absolute no go. Some people have had good results with deleting the EGR and installing a set of ARP head studs, but even at that, they can still blow head gaskets.

My dad had an '02 Duramax that he bought brand new, and although the truck was nice and the ride was incredibly smooth, the reliability just wasn't there. It was in the dealership way more than it should have been for a $45,000 truck. He sold the truck with 50,000 miles on it after getting fed up with trans and electrical problems. The Allison kept us from going snowmobiling up north one weekend after it decided not to shift out of first. He took it to the dealership and it ended up being a TCM related problem. Then the dash, windows and locks decided to stop working. Two weeks after he sold it, the trans blew up. I still know the current owner and now with around 80,000 miles, the truck needs a set of injectors.

Right now, I have a 24v 5.9 ext, cab Ram. I actually really like this truck. It's not exactly stock, but with a few bucks invested, it's quick enough to break the tires loose and put you back in your seat. The fuel mileage is night and day compared to my 7.3L. And although you can't beat the reliability of the 5.9L, I still do miss the room I had in my quad cab Super Duty. Hence why I want to build a Super Duty with a Cummins.

So MGP, which is better?
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So MGP, which is better?
The best I've gotten out of my Cummins was 19.5/20 after a 3 hour trip on the highway cruising at 70 mph with no load. But my Ram is also sitting on 35"s with a leveling kit. My dad's Duramax could consistently hit 20 mpg on the highway. As far as the 7.3L goes, I would be lucky to see 16 MPG. I know someone that has a bone stock manual '00 7.3L and they average 18 mpg. On a set of 37"s, my 7.3L would average about 12 MPG. I once got it down to 9 MPG cruising at 80.
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the only ford worth a shit imo has a 7.3 motor in it. the 6.0 is junk
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I'm retro. I'll take one of the IDI's (Ford). Simplicity, reasonable economy and (so far) cheap parts.
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I'm retro. I'll take one of the IDI's (Ford). Simplicity, reasonable economy and (so far) cheap parts.
I love my 94 turbo IDI. Not super fast put pulls like crazy.
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Cummins. Proven million mile motors.
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I'm retro. I'll take one of the IDI's (Ford). Simplicity, reasonable economy and (so far) cheap parts.
You don't get any more Simple than an old Chevy 6.2 toss on the 6.5 turbo stuff and they make some good power and get good MPG's. That's what I did in my burban. One 12volt wire run's the whole motor, need 12V's to open the fuel solenoid that's it!!! the motor will even run with no alt until the battery does not have 12v to keep the fuel flowing... And don't let anybody tell these motor's are junk built right and what I mean by that is a good turbo, oil pump and head studs to start these motors make good power... I have out pulled a powerstroke going up hill pulling my 6000lb toy hauler... and that's no lie!!! it's all in the turbo and getting the pump right..
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I love my 95 CTD, 244,xxx and counting. Jeep on the trailer behind it and i just did a 200 mile trip on just under a half tank. I can pull 20+ easy in the summer.
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You don't get any more Simple than an old Chevy 6.2 toss on the 6.5 turbo stuff and they make some good power and get good MPG's. That's what I did in my burban. One 12volt wire run's the whole motor, need 12V's to open the fuel solenoid that's it!!! the motor will even run with no alt until the battery does not have 12v to keep the fuel flowing... And don't let anybody tell these motor's are junk built right and what I mean by that is a good turbo, oil pump and head studs to start these motors make good power... I have out pulled a powerstroke going up hill pulling my 6000lb toy hauler... and that's no lie!!! it's all in the turbo and getting the pump right..
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being a GM guy i love the 04.5 and newer duramax diesels. idk about reliability but i know they pull there weight for towing. they out power the fords and the dodges in comparable years. i think the brand new ones are 365 HP and 660 ft-lbs from the factory and tuning only gets even better. i've heard the mileage is pretty good too being 18+ city/hwy mixed.
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........and I figured nobody would check in positive on the IDI!!!
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I like the Int. on my 06 GMC if i could i would do a late model GMC 03-07 with a cummins but im not made of money so i have to settle with my GM 6.0 gasser
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........and I figured nobody would check in positive on the IDI!!!
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98.5 Ram with a cummins. new(er) bodystyle (quad cab) and you still get the 12v.
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diesel owners are worse then sled owners..get on any of there sights and they all have there negatives.what one do you like?i also am shopping.been watching e bay and powerstroke.org.everyday.kinda set looking for the 96,97 f350 crew but have not found that perfect one yet.even will do the f250 but i want the 60 up front ,not the independent junk.
dodge has a great motor but the rest of the truck falls apart.chevy always has that little bullshit going on.ford has a week e 40d auto, the injector relay goes bad on the 7.3 they like the 6.0 tranny cooler on the 7.3. ford's start the hardest in the winter.more you mod any of the diesels you run the risk of tranny trouble, unless you spend the big bucks on the billet stuff.
kinda comes down to your choice.think they all have there good and bad.dont get a new one unless 12mpg is ok with you in a $50.000 truck. they do get better but you have to spend some money to ditch all the restrictive crap.
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