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Old March 1st, 2010, 04:39 PM   #21
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Cool cars but I kind of fail to see their purpose. It just doesn't seem to fit with Porsche, but quite frankly an SUV never did either. I think the Cayenne and the Panamera are ugly. The iconic Porsche look just doesn't transfer over well.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't own one if given to me and go have a lot of fun!
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id much rather have one of these.....still a 4 seater

the only problem i found is that when you put the top down you can only fit one golf bag in the trunk... i had to put the top back up and turn the air on

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The Panamera is simply a bad idea brought to life. Porsches are lightweight, agile sports cars - not luxury sedans. Quit trying to be all things to all people.

The Cayenne, However, is sacrilege - I mean an over 5000 pound Porsche SUV. WTF. A Porsche for people who want to say they have a Porsche, but really don't want one. Just buy the VW Touareg.

Ditto BMW SUVs.
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they had one at fred lavery when we were doing some work there and i fell in love with it. it is a pretty big car, i want.
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The Panamera is simply a bad idea brought to life. Porsches are lightweight, agile sports cars - not luxury sedans. Quit trying to be all things to all people.

The Cayenne, However, is sacrilege - I mean an over 5000 pound Porsche SUV. WTF. A Porsche for people who want to say they have a Porsche, but really don't want one. Just buy the VW Touareg.

Ditto BMW SUVs.


Have you ever been in a Turbo Cayenne?



And I'm sure people who own lamborghini LM002's just bought them to own a lambo.
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Cayenne isn't bad, and doesn't seem to be and CC is right the turbo flat out rocks!!!
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The 4 door wrangler is simply a bad idea brought to life. Jeeps WERE lightweight, agile, simple, go anywhere vehicles - not bloated people/grocery haulers. Quit trying to be all things to all people.
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Have you ever been in a Turbo Cayenne?



And I'm sure people who own lamborghini LM002's just bought them to own a lambo.
The whole point of Porsche is an uncompromising purpose-built sports car - not a flexible, versatile do-everything vehicle. I've been in a few uber-powerful vehicles (i.e. V-10 Audi R8, Nissan GT-R, Viper, etc...). The V-10 R8 is so fast it's just wrong.

I'm not disputing that they're high-performing vehicles - just that they violate the "spirit" of Porsche. Ditto the BMW SUVs. BMW is about high-performing, well-balanced sedans and coupes - not SUVs. I'd rather see these marques remain pure and focused. What next? A BMW minivan and a Porsche pickup?
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The whole point of Porsche is an uncompromising purpose-built sports car - not a flexible, versatile do-everything vehicle. I've been in a few uber-powerful vehicles (i.e. V-10 Audi R8, Nissan GT-R, Viper, etc...).

I'm not disputing that they're high-performing vehicles - just that they violate the "spirit" of Porsche. Ditto the BMW SUVs. BMW is about high-performing, well-balanced sedans and coupes - not SUVs. I'd rather see these marques remain pure and focused. What next? A BMW minivan and a Porsche pickup?
How can producing the most quick, nimble, and best looking SUV violate the "spirit" of Porsche? I'm being serious. If the Cayenne turned out to be a POS like the BMW x5, or the like, it would have been a huge flop. Instead, it is simply the best performance SUV on the market.

I'd love to see Porsche make a pickup to whip the raptor, or the roush f150. But there is a lot at risk.. You can't take the chance of tarnishing a name like porsche with something that may flop in the market.


The cayenne is an uncompromising purpose-built sports SUV
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How can producing the most quick, nimble, and best looking SUV violate the "spirit" of Porsche? I'm being serious. If the Cayenne turned out to be a POS like the BMW x5, or the like, it would have been a huge flop. Instead, it is simply the best performance SUV on the market.

I'd love to see Porsche make a pickup to whip the raptor, or the roush f150. But there is a lot at risk.. You can't take the chance of tarnishing a name like porsche with something that may flop in the market.


The cayenne is an uncompromising purpose-built sports SUV
I'd have to argue best performance SUV on the market.

I think it would go up to opinion between it and the Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8. They are almost identical in performance numbers...except one costs half of the other.
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Both the Cayenne and the Panamera are beautiful cars.
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Old March 1st, 2010, 06:58 PM   #35
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I think these cars look pretty sweet. I saw one for the first time a couple weeks ago with the girl and I went to the VW dealership on State St. in Ann Arbor to check out the VW CC, and I saw one of these parked out front next door at the Porsche dealership.

I ran over there real quick and peeked inside, damn that thing is sharp. (The guys inside just stood there watching, no one eagerly jumped out to see if I needed assistance )

I believe the sticker price of the one I looked at was $120k, if I remember correctly. Still have never seen one on the road.

I could definitely see the motorhead family man CEO zipping around in one of these.
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I'd have to argue best performance SUV on the market.

I think it would go up to opinion between it and the Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8. They are almost identical in performance numbers...except one costs half of the other.
Did you just compare the Cayenne and the SRT8?


Do you compare your car to a m5?
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That's what people said when they started making the cayenne.



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Maybe in 8 or 9 years I'll be able to afford one when they start to have 150,000 miles on them.
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How can producing the most quick, nimble, and best looking SUV violate the "spirit" of Porsche? I'm being serious. If the Cayenne turned out to be a POS like the BMW x5, or the like, it would have been a huge flop. Instead, it is simply the best performance SUV on the market.

I'd love to see Porsche make a pickup to whip the raptor, or the roush f150. But there is a lot at risk.. You can't take the chance of tarnishing a name like porsche with something that may flop in the market.


The cayenne is an uncompromising purpose-built sports SUV
I'd argue that the SRT8 Grand Cherokee is a better-looking vehicle - the Cayenne doesn't do much for me. I also like the looks of the Range Rover Sport, but wouldn't trust it from a reliability perspective. The Cayenne is a nice job of producing a decent-looking SUV with Porsche styling cues, but I think the Touareg is the better looking one of the family.

As far as Porsche having a miscue, I had a 72 Porsche 914.
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I'd argue that the SRT8 Grand Cherokee is a better-looking vehicle - the Cayenne doesn't do much for me. I also like the looks of the Range Rover Sport, but wouldn't trust it from a reliability perspective. The Cayenne is a nice job of producing a decent-looking SUV with Porsche styling cues, but I think the Touareg is the better looking one of the family.

As far as Porsche having a miscue, I had a 72 Porsche 914.
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