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Old February 23rd, 2010, 09:00 PM   #1
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Default 2009 Honda crf450r

looking to buy one. Anyone have an experience with this model. It has fuel injection and are at a good price now for clearence. Pros and cons please.
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 09:05 PM   #2
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make sure it has the decompression pin updated in it. its a known problem. many people like the bike but i rather ride an 08 tried and trued carb bike.

i personaly ride an 08 and love it. they are going pretty cheap as well right now.

what kind of riding do you plan to do?
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 09:12 PM   #3
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i've heard both good and bad about the efi. If your just planning on trail riding and leaving the engine stock they're not bad but if your gonna start changing stuff then you have to remap the efi and that can be a pain in the ass. Not to mention if you get a stock bike you WILL have to change the silencer to a spark arrestor to ride trails and dunes then you will have to remap the efi. Carburator is a 3 minute jet change and your ready to ride. I would go with the carb!
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 09:55 PM   #4
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mainly just orv areas, Roscommen, to St Helens, clare county, open orv counties, and some trips in the up, some private property and hopefully the new motomania up in Harrison area I have a cr250 and 650xl.
I'm older now so not so nuts anymore, just want a good reliable ride to enjoy the sport. A 03 crf450 I'm also waiting to hear about also from a guy in Midland. I didn't realize the new bikes don't have spark arresters, and yes leaving it stock.
How is your 2008 holding up for you?
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 09:58 PM   #5
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mainly just orv areas, Roscommen, to St Helens, clare county, open orv counties, and some trips in the up, some private property and hopefully the new motomania up in Harrison area I have a cr250 and 650xl.
I'm older now so not so nuts anymore, just want a good reliable ride to enjoy the sport. A 03 crf450 I'm also waiting to hear about also from a guy in Midland. I didn't realize the new bikes don't have spark arresters, and yes leaving it stock.
How is your 2008 holding up for you?
That 03 will not have a spark arrestor on it either, if it is still stock. The 03 will also feel like a tank compared to the 05 and later frame. Not saying its a bad bike but just something to think about.
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its not just the new bikes. All motocross bikes in the last decade were made for closed course racing only and dont come with spark arrestors. Old two stokes didnt have them and the new four strokes dont have them. Unless you get a crf450x or other dual purpose/trail bike then that will have a spark arrestor. Stick with honda though! you cant go wrong with red!
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I'll do some more checking on the x model, see what is available in 2008 models. My 650xl is a dual sport, nice to cruise with but heavy in the trails and it don't like sand, but worth the 1800.00 I payed for it.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 05:54 PM   #8
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well bought one $5800.00 out the door, with a spark arrester included, a 8000,00 dollar bike fresh out of the crate. Picking it up next week.


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keep a eye on the valves. hondas are notorious for needing to be shimmed quite frequently. plus theyve been having trouble with the transmissions losing teeth and locking up.
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I didn't need to hear that
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sorry. also mark, if you ever need anything done to your bikes, i know a awesome mech in gladwin who is very very reasonable and good with about any bike you can bring him.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 01:15 AM   #12
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The 2009 are all new except for 5 parts from the previous years, the transmission is new, engine, frame, plastic efi, etc... the bars, grips, cables are the only old stuff, KYB shocks also, so hopefully with a good breakin and oil changes and such it will be a great machine to learn motocross techniques. I plan on doing alot of riding this year.
Hey do you know anyone who would be interested in a 91cr250. I had some pics, can't find them, when I goto Caro I'll take some new ones. Very reliable, lots of new parts. new top end, brakes, chain, sprockets, filter, front tire, clutch cover, rear fender, cleaned it up pretty good, repainted it, got the typical plastic sratches. Great running, never had a problem with it

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Old February 25th, 2010, 08:03 AM   #13
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The 2009 are all new except for 5 parts from the previous years, the transmission is new, engine, frame, plastic efi, etc... the bars, grips, cables are the only old stuff, KYB shocks also, so hopefully with a good breakin and oil changes and such it will be a great machine to learn motocross techniques. I plan on doing alot of riding this year.
Hey do you know anyone who would be interested in a 91cr250. I had some pics, can't find them, when I goto Caro I'll take some new ones. Very reliable, lots of new parts. new top end, brakes, chain, sprockets, filter, front tire, clutch cover, rear fender, cleaned it up pretty good, repainted it, got the typical plastic sratches. Great running, never had a problem with it
if you get one, can I have your XR650L? ;)
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Old February 25th, 2010, 08:21 AM   #14
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keep a eye on the valves. hondas are notorious for needing to be shimmed quite frequently. plus theyve been having trouble with the transmissions losing teeth and locking up.
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Don't sweat it. He's confusing your bike with the 250. I haven't heard much bad on the 450 valves, but on the 250's Honda has a quality control issue with the titanium intake valves. The hard coating the intakes need to survive isn't always uniform or thick; it can quickly wear away, then the Titanium wears itself away on the valve seat and closes up the shim clearance. When you re-shim to a smaller size to get the clearance back, the wear process starts all over again and you'll need to re-shim within an hour of riding. After 2 or three adjustments, you cannot adjust any less and you need to replace those valves.

Honda went with a softer valve seat instead of addressing the bad valves. The idea was that the softer seat wouldn't wear the valve. Stupid, stupid, stupid. My wife's 06 250X had one intake valve start to move after 13 hours of riding. Honda refused to warranty it (because the valve adjustments were not done by a shop - NOBODY wrenches on my bikes but me. Period.). Even if they did warranty it, they'd replace it with the same crap and I'd still have to pay labor of a Honda shop to do it.

Instead, I upgraded to a 07R head, bigger cam and went to SS intake valves. They haven't moved in 150 hour of riding.

Short story long: I will never buy a new Honda again, you got an awesome deal on an awesome bike and the problems mentioned are mainly the 250's.

Ride safe.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 10:09 AM   #15
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well bought one $5800.00 out the door, with a spark arrester included, a 8000,00 dollar bike fresh out of the crate. Picking it up next week.


why 58? i made a post where you can get them for 4900 otd.

great bike..you will not be dissapointed.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 11:47 AM   #16
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there's only a 1000,00 rebate on them , the Ohio place must be different, plus the tax here, no charges for freight or setup, and it's 2 miles down the road, so I saved 2200.00 from last year. I'm happy with it.
I have always worked on my own stuff too. I will always try to do anything first before paying someone, hence all my work done on my jeep.

And no Mike I'm keeping my 650xl it's cheap transportation and nice to explore with.

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Old February 26th, 2010, 09:46 AM   #17
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get it from c&c? they are good people. been there a long time. i called ohio because of the tax deal.you still got a great deal on a great bike.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 12:19 PM   #18
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Cool bike.

I am always wondering, which of these new bikes can be riden alot (think old 4-stroke/2-stroke type) without to much maint.??
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Old February 26th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #19
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Well, that's debatable - the older 450R's suggested new piston and rings after 15 hours (IIRC) - but that is for racing....
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i bought a brand new 08 and i have riden it for a complete season. still no movement in the valves and its been riden. not beat on but i dont ride them and puts around.
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