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Old February 26th, 2010, 10:56 AM   #41
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you should actually start slacking off more, for two reasons.

First, those threatened by your performance will chill out.

Second, they already think you're slacking off, might as well do it. Then let them compare your productivity


this shit happens here all the time with the union, they hire some new kid, who busts ass to prove himself, and scares all the lazy oldtimers. They usually end up having grievences filed against them for some BS or another, eventually they become lazy to, just to fit in
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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:04 AM   #42
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you should actually start slacking off more, for two reasons.

First, those threatened by your performance will chill out.

Second, they already think you're slacking off, might as well do it. Then let them compare your productivity


this shit happens here all the time with the union, they hire some new kid, who busts ass to prove himself, and scares all the lazy oldtimers. They usually end up having grievences filed against them for some BS or another, eventually they become lazy to, just to fit in
I think this might actually work . Ive had friends in similar sit. that this worked fairly well for. The prob with a large chain is your just a # to them so if they have made thier mind up your already screwed .good luck! Make Them Call The Amber Lamps If this dosent work!
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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:07 AM   #43
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you should actually start slacking off more, for two reasons.

First, those threatened by your performance will chill out.

Second, they already think you're slacking off, might as well do it. Then let them compare your productivity


this shit happens here all the time with the union, they hire some new kid, who busts ass to prove himself, and scares all the lazy oldtimers. They usually end up having grievences filed against them for some BS or another, eventually they become lazy to, just to fit in
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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:10 AM   #44
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Honestly in a union shop that's not far off. I hate to say that but it's the truth. It's not the right thing to do but it will generally save your job in the end. I wouldn't recommend it but it may fit the situation.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:13 AM   #45
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Honestly in a union shop that's not far off. I hate to say that but it's the truth. It's not the right thing to do but it will generally save your job in the end. I wouldn't recommend it but it may fit the situation.
exactly what i was trying to convey, i'm not for it, but i'm not for percecuting(sp) and individual for doing well either

btw, i am not union
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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:27 AM   #46
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I would walk into the managers office close the door and tell that prick you opioin. they can't fire you for that. That is your right. Also tell him to bust out that proof that you have i want to see it. As for everybody else just walk around with a big permagrin from ear to ear. That will piss them right off. You need to start your own paper trail. Date,Time and what happend who was involved. Because if it goes to to big wigs they don't give a shit about hearsay they want proof. If you go back to mosqito control. How much does it cost. I need that done around my house. I'm Trapped inside my house in the spring. Walk outside and you got about 3 million around ya and in your mouth.
Based on the intelligence oozing from this post, I think mosquito control is not an option. Those mosquitos are keeping you where you belong.

Ember, the best thing you can do is continue to do your job and do it well. Dot your i's and cross your t's. If you feel like it will be to you advantage, you can talk to the manager that you feel is most reasonable and tell them that you are concerned that some of the other managers might be trying to force you out of your job and you want to know what you can do better in order to make sure you can keep your job. Don't threaten to quit, whine that there is preferential treatment or racism. Quietly do your job, make sure the manager knows that is what you are doing. When you aren't working, pound the pavement in search of a more suitable job.

Standing up for your self can sometimes be respected if you are in an agressive position and have a career. Standing up for yourself at a big box retail store gets you fired.

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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:31 AM   #47
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I'm no HR or legal expert, but IMHO, your chance of keeping your job after signing this document is very low.



I hate to see shit like this go down.
I absolutely agree. Your signature pretty much says that you admit to doing wrong. Should have refused to sign.

Find a new job. Jump ship. Save having to explain termination to future employers. Not so much give up, but move on.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:43 AM   #48
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Being a manager who has had employees with real discipline issues I would like to add:
Your manager is not your friend. I am friendly with some of my employees but trust me going to lunch or being on my IM list/jeep forum doesn't net you anything if your performance is crappy.
HR is interested in not getting the company sued. This sometimes means that a person who potentially could have a grievance that would make the company look bad will get out of disciplinary action. In my experience, HR will often times bend to accommodate that person because the PR from a lawsuit is more trouble than the company wants regardless of the truth of the situation or whether they could win the lawsuit.
Lastly, Your coworkers are not your friends. Keep your conversations with them that stir the pot to a minimum. I hate it when I have employees who cause and lower morale. You can be friendly with your coworkers but they are business associates, not your buddies.

I also think you might have started to remedy this problem too late. You are already documented as having a work performance issue. I am not sure what advice to give you in this situation other than in your write up legally they should have given you specific goals to use as areas of improvement. Pay close attention to the goals and meet them consistently.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:46 AM   #49
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Actually this is the approach by the majority of loosers these days.


Makes you want to puke doesn't it?
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Old February 26th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #50
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Find another job. Go to your GM and explain why you are quitting. No need to work under that type of BS. If your coworkers are as unproductive as you say it will become evident after you leave.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 12:34 PM   #51
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Sounds like somebody doesn't want You stepping on their toes and is trying to get ride of you.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 01:29 PM   #53
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I would think your job and working at best buy are a little different.

When I worked at Circuit City I gave a fukc for about a month. 7 months later I found another job and quit circuit city.
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The only store to transfer to is Saginaw and it's more than likely just as bad, plus its a lot bigger which would mean less hours for me because there are more employees. I work at the smallest store in the district.
I larger store will have more employees and less small time dra-ma. More oportunity tomove up and greater chance at more $. From experience, working in a retail store is alot easier if you just dont give a fukc about whats going on other than the task at hand.
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I recommend getting a real job.
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It will always be a hostile environment from here on out. It sounds like you potentially learning new things and maybe moving to a different area would mess with their little clique.

You also mentioned race may be a factor. The company does not want lawsuits. Period. If they take action against whoever is harassing you, the race card will be played and that spells trouble for the company. They will want to avoid this. It is easier to fire a white girl then go against a black girl.

As mentioned before, if you are a good worker, you make other people look bad who are not good workers. Rather then them stepping up their game, they will try to bring you down to their level or get rid of you.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 03:27 PM   #59
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I recommend getting a real job.
Apparantly we dont live in the same shit hole state. I can apply for 30 jobs in my field and I get "you dont have enough experience" every time. Well duh no one will hire me, how do you get experience when no one will hire you!!

I have a degree, I'm nationally certified IN that field, I'm a EMT, I'm almost done with my Bachelors in Nursing, I am on my Clinicals waitlist for my Radiography degree etc. So by no means do I need to work a dead end job forever, BUT I took what I could get when I could get it to pay my bills and survive..


Anyways. I talked to my GM today and he said there is absolutely no way it should have went from a Verbal to a Final warning. So he is gong to talk to my manager and review it. He then talked to the girl above me and we talked for like an hour today at work and I felt a lot better after we had talked. She told me it has to get better and to just document everything I do.

I told her about the manager I was having problems with and she said "You know I do hear a lot of negative things from her about you" So hopefully they will investigate that.
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Document all your actions. Get a written request to HR for your personal file. All grievances must be in there for them to use that to fire you. That will also show you who is saying what. For the manager to say "so and so has been saying," that "so and so" has to be documented in your personal file. This will only protect you if you get let go. It really won't make your job there any better. You may have to pay for copies of your files and I believe they have 10 days (don't quote me) to provide them to you from the date your turn in your written request.
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