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Old February 25th, 2010, 10:53 PM   #1
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I work for a rather large retail chain. I started working their in september, have not had any problems, was promoted from a cashier to a customer service rep within a month of being there.

Lately stuff has started to go down hill fast.

Now I'm not racist but if you know Midland at all it's a pretty White community. 1/2 of my Co Workers are Black and from Saginaw. Most of the Managers are black as well so there is a lot of preferencial treatment going on.

A couple weeks ago we were super slow so I was told by my manager to go out and learn the media department of my store. I go out and start learning a little more about our inventory system, xbox hdmi etc etc. Well I was out there for about 4.5hrs learning all sorts of stuff and the manager who is in charge of most of the sales floor comes up and tells me very rudely to "go back to ops and stay there" So she takes the guy that was training me to the back.

Just so happens I have been friends with the guy who was training me for 10years. He told me she told him that I have no right to be on the floor because I dont even know how to do my own job properly. Mind you I have never heard this from MY manager before.

So the next day I went in and talked to my manager about it and how rude she was and how she had no right saying stuff like that about me to another employee.

After that shit has hit the fan. I was pulled aside about 2 weeks ago and told by my manager that people are telling him, I stand around, I dont do anything, I pretend to be busy so I dont have to help a customer etc the list is completely retarded. I work with one girl who asks to go home early all the time and never gets in trouble.

So he told me I need to work hard at over comming this perception people have of me. OK I figure I'll work at it. Today he calls me into the office again to tell me that people are still saying stuff to him and that he doesn't like hearing it, doesnt wanna fire me bla bla. He made me sign a final warning stating that if he hears ANY negative feedback from here out I am FIRED!

WTF! He tells me its hard to over come the perception people have of me yet only gives me 2 weeks and then tells me if I dont change asap I'm fired?!

I am pretty sure it is the girl directly above me, her 2 buddies in my area and the stupid bitch floor manager that was talking shit about me.

The other day I was cleaning above the customer service area, stocking apps and all that and she came back and stood at the bottom of the ladder with her arms crossed staring at me. She came back on Monday as I was waiting for help from a member of the comp. area to help me look at an Xbox to decide what we needed to do for the guy and she came stalkin back asking people where the hell I was. Mind you I had only been off the floor for like 2 minutes.

At this point in time I see it as pure harassment. My manager only has hearsay as to what is going on, he is going off of people just telling him what they wanna say. The girl that is directly above me spends HOURS sitting on her ass in the office pretending to work.

So I don't know what to do I don't need or want to get fired but I have a feeling that is comming in probably a week or 2. I told him I feel like someone has it out for me and he tells me I'm being silly.

So tomorrow if my GM is there I am going to him and I am calling HR as well. Other than that I don't know what to do.

Any suggestions? I've worked retail since I was 17yrs old and have NEVER had any problems but all of a sudden in the last month I am the worst employee ever. Even though there are days I sell $600 in service plans and warrenties.

I have the option to go back to Mosquito Control In April which I am very highly considering but I'd like to at least keep the job I have no for weekends and such.

Other question is If I do get fired do I have enough proof to file a wrongful discharge or harassment case against anyone at my work. My manager doesnt do shit when I go to him and nothing ever gets taken care of. I'm not looking for money out of the deal I just want shit to be corrected so people quit getting screwed over. We have even had customers say that the Racial tension in our store is very high.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 10:56 PM   #2
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Ask for proof of wrong doing, and what you are doing wrong. Also talking to the GM and HR are good ideas.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 10:56 PM   #3
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Sounds like somebody doesn't want You stepping on their toes and is trying to get ride of you.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 10:59 PM   #5
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Wow I think you might want to shorten that shit up to the cliff notes version...I was out of breath just reading it. (=
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Wow I think you might want to shorten that shit up to the cliff notes version...
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Old February 25th, 2010, 11:02 PM   #7
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I'd say start looking for another job (yea, I know)...even if you do get this correctd by going higher up the ladder, the problems are not going to go away, they will probably get worse, as those talking shit now will use this as another reason not to like you, even if they dont have any reason now. It would just make working there miserable, so you will hate your job just because of the people you work with.
If you get fired, take the unenjoyment for a while and look for another job, but its better to not have to explain to future employers why you were fired, they may see it as you telling them a story, saying everyone was out to get you...much easier to say you quit because of personal differences with fellow employees
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Well I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they know I'm in school to become a Nurse so they know this isnt a career. The girl that is directly above me says she is in school for corrections and she has 3 kids with babies daddy mia. We are both the same age and I think honest to god think she is jealous of me and I think she is where most of the problem lays.

I know I can go back to Mosquito control they told me last year I was more than welcome back but I dont really wanna go back as the job is a lot of shitty labor.

It just frustrates me because I enjoy working with most of the people I work with but I think 3 of the girls have issues and gang up because they dont like me. I don't kiss ass and I think that pisses them off becuase I am not afraid to tell someone like it is.

MY manager says he has "proof" on video of me being "unproductive" but how can you prove something like that? The cameras can't zoom in to see me not doing anything and cant hear what we were talking about.

A lot of the people I work with have volunteered to stick up for me and the one lady I am close with said she would go with me to the GM so I have proof and a witness as to whats going on.

It is just really frustrating I told my manager today that I always feel like I have to worry about who is gonna stab me in the back when I come into work.

I am tempted to send my close co workers an email and ask them all who has a problem with me and that they need to bring it up with me to my face and not run to a managaer to tattle but I have a feeling that would get me in trouble.

My manager today told me that if I dont have anyting to do to go find the floor manager and ask for something to do, but how am I supposed to do that when the one manager is telling everyone I have no right to be on the floor and doesnt want me out there? I pick up shifts when they need me to, come in early when they need me to, come in on my day off if they need help etc. No more I'm done with that.

I feel like I'm in a losing situtation with the end comming with a week or 2.


STuff like this makes me realize why people go on machine gun rampages.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 11:15 PM   #9
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Document, Document, Document!
Keep a journal, fill it out every day when you leave work write down what you did, who you talked to and what was said.
Partner with HR, this is what they are there for. Also, most large corporations have a hotline you can call if the store HR is not willing to help. Depending on what company you work for (I think I have it narrowed down pretty close) the GM may or may not be helpful.

Basically though, do your job, and you should be fine. Ive been in retail for a LONG time, and I've not seen many people get canned that didn't deserve it.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 11:20 PM   #10
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...burn down their houses!


Okay, in seriousness though, I've been in a position like that before. The type of position where hard work isn't rewarded and the best employees are the ones that kiss the most ass. Granted this was like 8 years ago but you don't forget shit like that. I ended up quitting the job, and as much as I wanted to just tell off my manager(s) and bust ass out of there, I left with some dignity and actually put in my 2 weeks.

I would imagine if they have concrete evidence saying you are being unproductive they would have to show it to you, else it is all heresay.
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honestly, if you see being fired within a week or two, then yes, you are at the bottom of a downward spiral. Sorry, but it seems the end is already here.
I have no experiance in sales at all, or dealing with customers, so I really am not any help, I know. I'm sure its completely different then the type of shops I have always worked at, where I'm only dealing with the same few people everyday, and occasionally a salesman might come in the shop.
If this is a large chain, maybe ask to be transfered to a different dept. or a different location? Other then finding a new job entirely, this is the only thing I see that may actually resolve the real issue.


BTW, what the hell is mosquito control? Is that some sort of term for customers with complaints or something???
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Look for another job before get fired, get a good reference soucre for another job.
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Well I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they know I'm in school to become a Nurse so they know this isnt a career. The girl that is directly above me says she is in school for corrections and she has 3 kids with babies daddy mia. We are both the same age and I think honest to god think she is jealous of me and I think she is where most of the problem lays.

I know I can go back to Mosquito control they told me last year I was more than welcome back but I dont really wanna go back as the job is a lot of shitty labor.

It just frustrates me because I enjoy working with most of the people I work with but I think 3 of the girls have issues and gang up because they dont like me. I don't kiss ass and I think that pisses them off becuase I am not afraid to tell someone like it is.

MY manager says he has "proof" on video of me being "unproductive" but how can you prove something like that? The cameras can't zoom in to see me not doing anything and cant hear what we were talking about.

A lot of the people I work with have volunteered to stick up for me and the one lady I am close with said she would go with me to the GM so I have proof and a witness as to whats going on.

It is just really frustrating I told my manager today that I always feel like I have to worry about who is gonna stab me in the back when I come into work.

I am tempted to send my close co workers an email and ask them all who has a problem with me and that they need to bring it up with me to my face and not run to a managaer to tattle but I have a feeling that would get me in trouble.


My manager today told me that if I dont have anyting to do to go find the floor manager and ask for something to do, but how am I supposed to do that when the one manager is telling everyone I have no right to be on the floor and doesnt want me out there? I pick up shifts when they need me to, come in early when they need me to, come in on my day off if they need help etc. No more I'm done with that.

I feel like I'm in a losing situtation with the end comming with a week or 2.


STuff like this makes me realize why people go on machine gun rampages.
Coming from a LP background, yes, it is very easy to tell when someone is slacking. I also doubt that you know the full capabilities of the stores camera system if you are a cashier/sales floor person. Most retailers have pretty good camera systems, and even a standard analog PTZ camera can zoom a LONG way.

You only need a witness if you have given them a reason to think that you are not trustworthy. Partner with HR, then the GM, and go from there. Going in with your defenses up and with witnesses and everything makes you look guilty.

This would probably get you canned.

Have you sat down with the floor manager and asked what you can do to succeed? Probably not a bad idea. Running your mouth behind managements back will only get you further on the shit list. Also, remember that the floor manager and HR are peers, so dont go in with the attitude that the floor manager is a dumb bitch, and its all her fault, as it probably wont help you.

Take the high road, swallow your pride, and dont be a bitch.
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Maybe you are doing such a good job that the people above you are afraid you'll take their job. It happened with a friend of mine who used to work for Guitar Center. He outsold the higher up people, they gave him warning slips for really stupid shit, so he told them he knew that they just wanted him gone due to him outselling them and then quit.
Document everything I'd say, try to get people on your side. If they want a war, don't go down without fighting and at least bring a few people down with you.
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Yota - mosquito control is where we go out and spray woodlots etc for mosquito larva to keep the population down

Mini beast - I don't work for walmart
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huh..so mosquito control is exactly that? whod a thunk it
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see if you can get transfered to another store
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I feel an attitude issue exists.
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Take the road most are afraid to: Be up front honest about your intentions. Stop worrying about your perceptions. But dont do things that looks like you could be doing wrong; like chatting up those who are counting down cash drawers (might look like your smoozing to embezzle). Instead stop smoking and joking with EVERYONE as you are hired to earn and perform for the company. You dont go to work to make friends. And dont be afraid to turn those in who are doing wrong, but dont get petty on your co-workers either. Be a team player without being buddies. When you hear someone is talking about you behind your back, go up and say something like "Hey Barbabra! Yea Frankie just told me you were talking shit about me, and I wanted to know if you really said that, because you are a nice person and blah-blah-blah really good worker. Did you say that? Because if you did you could tell me to my face and then rumors won't get started..."

Being open, honest, and not planning secretly to hold your job will be a huge help because most people are afraid of the truth as it smacks their face.

Before you go to HR, consider going to the store manager and telling him your plans, as he may want to keep things in-house. Give him a reasonable timeline for him to fix his shit, and then hold to your boundary.

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