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Old August 21st, 2010, 01:38 PM   #81
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Nice and rainy today, so I spent a few hours this morning out in the garage. After carefull measuring, I figured out that 78-79 ford rear frame hangers and shackles, mounted upside down, would be the perfect shackle setup for the front. I was originally going to recycle some used parts, but decided against it and just picked up some replacements. I could have mounted them up higher to lower the truck more, but I'd run into issues with the planned hi-steer setup, plus the springs may bottom out on the bend in the frame if I went any lower.



With the axle bolted in



And another shot from the front.



I may end up having to put an add a leaf in the 78-79 Ford spring pack to handle the weight of the cummins, but I'll wait and see. My goal is to keep the springs as flat as possible, with little to no negative arch. The factory drag link isn't getting used. I'm just temporarily using it to keep the tires from flopping around.

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Old September 6th, 2010, 07:21 PM   #82
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Got back to work on this today. Progress is slow because I'm back to work and we are in the process of moving to the next town over. I haven't sold my place yet, so I've still got the barn for now to work in.

Started prepping the cummins for installation. Replaced leaking rear main seal and re-gasketed oil pan.
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Old January 16th, 2011, 04:49 AM   #83
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You make any progress. I'm collecting parts for a very similar conversion.
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Old January 16th, 2011, 07:05 AM   #84
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This is a great thread, nice work so far.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #85
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O.K. guys.

Sorry for the long wait in between posts. This has been a really weird year.

I will not give up on this project, and will post more info as soon as I have some.

For now the project has been stale, as I moved, and have been fairly busy at work. Having my workshop 15 miles from my house has been a pain, and I don't seem to find the time to wrench. It looks like the house is going to sell soon, so I'll have to move everything to my new place, and hopefully I'll get more work done on it.

A second problem is that I don't have the internet at home right now, and it pretty much isn't available unless I pay some big monthly fees for dish net or one of those cell based deals. So, the only time I get online is when I use it at work after hours or from the in-laws or parents places. So until I get that straightened out I won't have pictures. But, I'll keep you posted as to what is going on and will post pics as soon as possible.

For now the truck pretty much looks the same, but it is down off the stands and rolling. I need to get the motor mounts mocked up and the motor set in place, which is my next project.
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Old January 21st, 2011, 09:38 PM   #86
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I like it Keith.
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Old February 8th, 2011, 10:34 PM   #87
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are you going to run a intercooler?
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Old February 10th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #88
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are you going to run a intercooler?
I do not plan to. The intercooler with a cummins motor only improves horsepower, but the stock intercooled motors get worse mileage than my motor due to different injectors, usually 2-4 mpg worse.

My old rotory pump motor was the most fuel efficient version of the 5.9 cummins ever made, and at this time, that is the most important thing to me. Plus I love the simplicity of this setup.
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 04:07 PM   #89
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Small update.

I have been very busy with the move and several other things, so the build was gathering dust at my old house. Well, the old place sold, so now I am finishing up moving the last of everything.

I decided it would be easier to move the Suburban if the Cummins was in it and in place. I'm in the process of renovating my garage at the new place, so at this time I have very limited work space and tools.

So, today I went over and started fitment of the motor into the chassis. My original plan was to modify the original big block mount pads on the frame to fit the Cummins mounts. I decided that this would require too much work and cut them off the frame and ground everything down.

Then I sat the motor in place to see where everything fits. I ran into one small issue. The dodge A/C compressor hits the passenger side framerail where the original bump is that the factory idler arm bolted to. Since I no longer am using the original steering, I cut this bump off the frame and made up a plate from 1/4 inch plate and welded it in place. This gave me the extra 2 inches I needed. A lot of guys doing this sort of swap re-locate all the accessories, but I would like to keep everything under the hood as stock as possible. Plus, I really like the compact design and top mount alternator of the 1989 Dodge.

For a crossmemember I will be using a stock 1992 Dodge one ton 4x4 piece. By cutting approx 1 1/2 inches off either side of the stock dodge unit I should be able to easily weld this into the frame, allowing stock mounts and a very heavy duty full crossmember. My crossmember came out of a gas truck, as my diesel parts truck was 2wd. The gas and diesel crossmembers are identical.

I hope to get everything finished up in the mount department in the next few days. I forgot to take the camera with me to the shop today, so no pics, but I'll try to post some as soon as possible. After the motor is in, I'm sad to say that the project will probably see one more hiatus while I spend 1-2 months finishing up my garage.

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Here is the section I had to remove from the frame. You can see the template I made in the background for the removed section.



Using a piece of 1/4 plate I boxed in the hole in the frame from the inside.



And now the A/C compressor fits with about 1 inch of clearance.

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My buddy Jason (jsteinmetz on here) came over today and helped me mock up the motor and get it sitting in the frame so I can move the truck tommorow.

Brand new clutch.



The stock Dodge crossmember. I cut 1 1/2 inch off either side to make it fit between the framerails. I ended up cutting it approx 1/4 inch too short so I had to do some thick welds and use some plate for filler/spacers.



Crossmember welded in place. The diff hits it just slightly, so I'll maybe trim it a bit, and probably will need to add some leafs to lift the front.



And finally the motor in place. It sits very nicely, but I'm going to have to hammer the firewall slightly to keep it from rubbing in a few spots and/or slide it forward on the mounts a bit. As it sits, I can use the stock fan with the stock Suburban radiator. No electric fans necessary.


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I really like this build, I would do one of my own if I had the money, time, motivation and all the other stuff it requires.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 08:59 AM   #93
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I really like this build, I would do one of my own if I had the money, time, motivation and all the other stuff it requires.
Thank you. You can do this as well. For me this has been an on/again off/again project spanning almost six years. I slowly collected parts, and was originally going to build a vintage crew cab Ford.

If I was to try and buy all these parts at once I couldn't have done it. Now, with the economy like it is and such, I am really glad I hung on to all this stuff because it would have been near impossible for me to afford everything now. As of now the only expensive parts left to buy for this project are tires and eventually a winch.
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This is hawt. I hope to see more.
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Old September 14th, 2011, 08:02 AM   #95
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No progress, but here is whats going on:

1. After moving everything from my old place to my new place (which currently only has a 2 1/2 car garage) I figured out that I have no room to even walk around, much less work in there. So, I've spent much of my extra time designing my new dream workshop, and working with builders and the zoning board to build it. Right now we are a bit behind schedule, but should break ground very soon and hopefully be done by the time we get serious snow.

2. I ditched my old nextel for an AT&T android, which after extensive reasearch I figured it was the only way I could go. So now posting pics is simple, and I have the net not only at home, but everywhere I go. I'll even start a build thread for the new shop when time comes.
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I ditched my old nextel for an AT&T android, which after extensive reasearch I figured it was the only way I could go. So now posting pics is simple, and I have the net not only at home, but everywhere I go. I'll even start a build thread for the new shop when time comes.
I have a a plain old Droid for just over a year. Never been dropped but it is turning into a peice of shit. I have never had a phone go bad beofre the contract (still got a year) was up either. Hope you got a warranty.
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I have a a plain old Droid for just over a year. Never been dropped but it is turning into a peice of shit. I have never had a phone go bad beofre the contract (still got a year) was up either. Hope you got a warranty.
Yep, I got the warranty. I did a ton of research and talked to a bunch of nerds. They all told me to go with an HTC phone and avoid samsung and any microsoft one like the plaque.
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Yep, I got the warranty. I did a ton of research and talked to a bunch of nerds. They all told me to go with an HTC phone and avoid samsung and any microsoft one like the plaque.
I agree the Samsungs are crap. I had a Samsung camera too. That was the worst camera I have owned.

Good luck on the shop build. I need one too but the roof and windows were needed sooner unfortunately.

Droids are useless for international travel too. I think they did come out with one that is good for it now though.
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Droids are useless for international travel too. I think they did come out with one that is good for it now though.
Huh.

Japan isn't international? - my droid worked there.
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