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Old August 6th, 2010, 10:10 PM   #61
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Great news! This build is back on, and in full force. My job in Ohio is over, and I'm back home. I've actually been home for about 2 months, but my Grandfather passed away and I've been taking care of his estate. Now that I've got that all taken care of, and that I'm basically unemployed, I've got lots of time to work on the burb.

Today I dusted the cobwebs off both the burb and my tools and got to work. I finished cutting out and grinding off all the un-nessesary IFS bracketts. Then I decided to test fit the ARB front bumper. That proved to be a nightmare.

Let me start off by saying ARB instructions completely suck and are hilarious to read all at the same time. I wasn't supplied with English instructions, instead I got the Australian instructions. I have no idea what "nip down the bolts" means, or what "tuck it up a bit" means

Then, I made the wonderful discovery that if you follow the instructions for the 2500/3500 chassis, you end up having to take everything back apart again to get to a part that you can't get to if you follow the instructions in order.

Lastly on that, the Suburban 2500 front frame horns are slightly different than the truck front frame horns. If you assemble everything for the bumper mounts, including the frame stiffeners according to the ARB directions, most of the bolt holes don't line up (in all fairness to ARB, the manual warns about this and tells you to redrill any holes that don't fit). So once everything is assembled according to the directions, and looks like it does in the supplied pictures, the frame and bumper brackets are now 1 1/2 inch wider than the mounting flanges on the bumper itself, and no amount of coercing will get it to fit. I then tried assembling everything to the 1500 frame instructions, and found everyting to be 3 inches too wide.

So I took everything apart and re-evaluated the situation. Frankly, the "frame-enforcements" were pretty cheesy and were the culprit that made everything too wide. So I eliminated those. Then I took both front frame brackets and pushed them as far to the center and as high as I could inside the frame and tack welded them in place, completely ditching the bolts. Voila! bumper fits like a glove. I plan to fully weld it and add some additional reinforcements.

That was as far as I got for tonight, so after tommorows damage I will try to take some current pics and post them up.
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Old August 11th, 2010, 09:01 PM   #62
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I've been working on gutting out all un-needed brackets the last few days, and today I finished making the front crossmember/bumper mount. The black mounts are the ARB mounts. The un-painted mounts and crossmember are set up to run 53 inch front 78-79 F-250 leafs. I decided to go this way instead of the common Chevy 52 inch rears because the F-250 leafs are 3 inches wide versus 2 1/2, and the leaves are military wrapped and designed to be used in the front of a heavy vehicle.



I know these pics aren't the greatest, but it gives you an idea of the amount of torching and grinding it takes to get all the IFS junk out. I plan to paint the frame tommorow



This is with the front bumper bolted on, just for fitting.



And lastly, this is about where everything will sit. A 37 looks pretty good I think. The gap between the fender and bumper is where a trim piece goes that I haven't put back on yet.

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Old August 11th, 2010, 09:15 PM   #63
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lookin good. How close will the tire be to the bumper when there is some weight it the front?

You gonna trim the fenders?
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Old August 11th, 2010, 09:19 PM   #64
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lookin good. How close will the tire be to the bumper when there is some weight it the front?

You gonna trim the fenders?
The pic is very deceiving because of the angle. There is a ton of room between the tire and bumper, and a ton between the fender and tire (currently a good 5 inches either way). I plan to have the truck sit 3-4 inches lower than it is in the pic, and I believe the tires will fit just fine. Some minor trimming in the fender area may be necessary, which I don't mind, but we'll see.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 11:34 AM   #65
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I have the exact tires on my 92 gmc with an sas. I trimmed the fender slightly in the front but nothing in the back had to be done. Looking good!
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Old August 12th, 2010, 11:46 AM   #66
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I'm happy to see this build come back to life! I'm wrapping up my conversion and been wondering when I'd see this again

Any more thought on your clutch hydralics? I've got mine figured out so if you have any questions shoot me a PM.

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Old August 13th, 2010, 02:04 PM   #67
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I'm happy to see this build come back to life! I'm wrapping up my conversion and been wondering when I'd see this again

Any more thought on your clutch hydralics? I've got mine figured out so if you have any questions shoot me a PM.

I plan to start setting up the clutch pedal system in the next few weeks and will post pics when I do. The stock 1998 Dodge Clutch master cylinder mount is very similar to the way the stock 95-99 Chevy truck is mounted. The pushrod length appears to be the same, and only the bolt holes are slightly off. Being that the bolt holes are not currently drilled in the firewall due to my Suburban being originally an automatic, I should be able to just drill the firewall/clutch bracket for the dodge mounting pattern.
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That sounds good. I went with the Ford master mounted with the Chevy plate bored out a little to clear the ford part. I also had to lengthen the pushrod a bit.

So yeah, your way sounds like much less work
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Painted the frame up all purty this morning. I'm still going to have to figure out motor mounts and maybe shock mounts, so those areas will get torched/repainted.

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Old August 17th, 2010, 09:14 PM   #70
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No pics for today, as I just didn't have time.

Front axle is rolled under it, and springs are bolted up to the axle/front of the frame. I'm fabbing up rear spring hangers now, using stock 78-79 ford rear spring hangers and shackles turned upside down. I'm very happy with the way everything is setting. It's as low, or maybe lower, than I planned. Not 100% sure if the 37's are going to fit right, I may have to go down to 35's. We'll see!
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Stick with the 37's! 35's may look a little small on such a big vehicle. Just do a little fender trim or get some cutout flares. I can post a pic of mine with 37's to give you an idea what it looks like, let me know.
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Stick with the 37's! 35's may look a little small on such a big vehicle. Just do a little fender trim or get some cutout flares. I can post a pic of mine with 37's to give you an idea what it looks like, let me know.
Please do post up pics. Remember, I'm trying to keep this thing low. I'm not going for the big dumb mud truck look. I'm going more for the "Australian Outback" look and feel.

I've seen a bunch of these SAS trucks on 37's, and most of them look too tall to me. I'm for trimming the fenders, as long as it doesn't end up looking too ridiculous.
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Please do post up pics. Remember, I'm trying to keep this thing low. I'm not going for the big dumb mud truck look. I'm going more for the "Australian Outback" look and feel.

I've seen a bunch of these SAS trucks on 37's, and most of them look too tall to me. I'm for trimming the fenders, as long as it doesn't end up looking too ridiculous.
Mine is far from a big dumb mud truck. Thought you might want an idea of what it can look like but obviously you could care less. Unsubscribe. have a nice day.
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Old August 20th, 2010, 06:46 AM   #74
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Please do post up pics. Remember, I'm trying to keep this thing low. I'm not going for the big dumb mud truck look. I'm going more for the "Australian Outback" look and feel.

I've seen a bunch of these SAS trucks on 37's, and most of them look too tall to me. I'm for trimming the fenders, as long as it doesn't end up looking too ridiculous.

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Mine is far from a big dumb mud truck. Thought you might want an idea of what it can look like but obviously you could care less. Unsubscribe. have a nice day.

Re-read his post before you get all defensive, camoII. It doesn't sound like he's implying that yours looks like a "big dumb mud truck".


keithshotrodshop - Nice-looking build!
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Old August 20th, 2010, 08:09 AM   #75
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Mine is far from a big dumb mud truck. Thought you might want an idea of what it can look like but obviously you could care less. Unsubscribe. have a nice day.
Holy sensative! I think you misunderstood him!
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Didn't mean to come off as so sensitive. Just thought he wouldn't mind me sending a pic to him of what it would look likw since I have the same tires and all. must be my time of the month. lmao
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Anyway back to his build!
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Anyway back to his build!
I believe the first line in his reply was "please do post pics." This thread is making me want to build a big ol' suburban so I need some more eye candy! Post some pics dammit!
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Old August 20th, 2010, 09:52 PM   #79
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Wow! I totally didn't mean anything about your truck Camo. I really would like to see some pics. Sorry if I came off wrong.

What I was thinking about was a magazine that recently did a Tahoe on 37's. I can't remember which one it was, but the thing looked ridiculous to me. They had enough lift on the thing to probably clear 40-42 inch tires (maybe with some trimming) I've also seen the same thing with many of the ORU kits. In fact, the ORU kit (If installed/used per ORU directions) nets a minimum of 6 inches of lift. That's why I decided to build my own suspention instead.

I have two kids and a very short wife. I'm trying to build this thing so she doesn't need a ladder to get into it
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Old August 20th, 2010, 10:51 PM   #80
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Great progress! Love this idea.
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