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Old February 24th, 2010, 11:37 AM   #21
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Looks good so far Keith, and BTW your ARB front bumper is on it's way!
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Old February 24th, 2010, 11:43 AM   #22
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Looking forward to seeing the progress on this.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #23
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Get one, I used a chunk of 1.1875" TG&P 1045 shafting, and had some "pucks" made up to match the carrier bearing races, I've checked (5) front 60's that were either in or recently pulled from running stock-ish trucks to check them and none were straight, even the one I ended up buying was 0.188 out on the long side, most were 0.375-0.500 out, one I couldn't even pass the bar thru.

If they all ran/drove with no issues, whats the issue with them being slightly bent? From what I've read, they all seem to be bent. Are there any long term problems?
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Old February 24th, 2010, 07:07 PM   #24
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No pics of progress for today because I forgot to take the camera out to the barn with me.

Managed to get the majority of the rest of the sandblasting done. Still have a few parts to go.

Got everything that is currently blasted into primer.

Ordered this from Ironman :



I priced around EVERYWHERE, and Pat was almost $100 bucks cheaper than everyone else . I can't wait!

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Old February 24th, 2010, 07:15 PM   #25
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Looks good so far Keith, and BTW your ARB front bumper is on it's way!
Thanks! And I really appreciate the great price you got me!
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Old February 24th, 2010, 07:38 PM   #26
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that bumber is sweet
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Old February 25th, 2010, 03:55 AM   #27
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If they all ran/drove with no issues, whats the issue with them being slightly bent? From what I've read, they all seem to be bent. Are there any long term problems?
Yup, they are all slightly bent, I just like to make sure they are within spec (usually less than 0.250 depending on application), front axles have a lot more forgiveness for housing deflection, but too much can cause bearing/seal wear issues.

I like to see a little pre-load bend in housings, the ends of the tube being lower and forward of the center slightly, if it's bent the other way, it has seen a rough life.

It's your call, and I'm admitedly a little anal about this stuff, I just hate to see people put hard work into something that is trashed.
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Yup, they are all slightly bent, I just like to make sure they are within spec (usually less than 0.250 depending on application), front axles have a lot more forgiveness for housing deflection, but too much can cause bearing/seal wear issues.

I like to see a little pre-load bend in housings, the ends of the tube being lower and forward of the center slightly, if it's bent the other way, it has seen a rough life.

It's your call, and I'm admitedly a little anal about this stuff, I just hate to see people put hard work into something that is trashed.
I thought about it last night, and I think I am going to just take the gamble and run it as is. I've never had any issues with my axle builds, so knock on wood, I think I'll be O.K. Plus I'm going to be running lockouts, so the front axle will only see use in four wheel drive.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 08:05 AM   #29
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keep up the good work, that ARB bumper will look sweet on there!!
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Old February 25th, 2010, 12:33 PM   #30
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here's what he meant by PLATING not gusseting
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starts at the 3rd or 4th pic
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Old February 25th, 2010, 03:10 PM   #31
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That looks like a good idea.

I don't think he was wrong in anything, it was my misunderstanding and I thought it was pretty funny. As an old school hotrod guy, I think of plating as chroming or some other surface treatment.
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Looks like a good platform and parts pile to start with! Have you figured out what you were gonna do about the lowish SAS or motor mounts yet? If you're interested PM me as I have compiled a few pics of different ways to fab up nice engine mounts for nothing but a little time.
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Old February 27th, 2010, 07:31 AM   #33
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Nice pick on the bumper. I had a similiar one on my old 'burban. This is going to be a sweet rig when your done. Congrats
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Old February 27th, 2010, 03:15 PM   #34
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If they all ran/drove with no issues, whats the issue with them being slightly bent? From what I've read, they all seem to be bent. Are there any long term problems?
abnormal tire wear, wouldnt doubt premature wear on other parts as well
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Looks like a good platform and parts pile to start with! Have you figured out what you were gonna do about the lowish SAS or motor mounts yet? If you're interested PM me as I have compiled a few pics of different ways to fab up nice engine mounts for nothing but a little time.
For the SAS, I've got a few ideas. I'm basically going to be building what most of the swap kits do, with a lower front crossmember and fairly flat springs. I've decided to go with 37 inch tires, so it won't be really low. I did a SAS before on my old jimmy, and I'll build similar to what I did with that. I'll let you know if I need those pics on the mounts, as I haven't even thought about what to do there yet. Thanks for the offer!
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Old February 28th, 2010, 09:08 PM   #36
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The last few days I've only been able to get a bit of work done here and there.

I planned on painting the axles and mechanical parts Satin Black, but found two full gallons of gloss black in my paint cabinet and decided to use them since I already had them. I primered all the parts first, and sanded between coats. Hopefully this lasts a long time.

I only have a few more parts to paint and I'll be ready for re-assembly of the front axle.



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Went out today and painted more stuff. I also put a new spindle bearing and seal set in the passenger spindle, and installed a new u-joint in the drivers side axle shafts. Didn't take any pictures today.

Also, I've decided to not use the cracked/welded knuckle. A friend of mine in Lansing has a spare drivers knuckle for me, and kindly offered to give it to me for free. So I'm going to try and make it over there in the next week so I can complete the front axle rebuild. I figure since everything else in the front axle is now new or reconditioned, it's silly to use one half crappy part.

I'm kinda busy this week with work, and my wife's cousin was killed in a four wheeler accident, so we will be busy with the funeral and such. I'm getting a little done each day, and will try to keep that up.

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Small update. Re-installed gears and locker yesterday. My nephew ran over to Lansing and picked up a good drivers side knuckle, so I'm finishing painting that today as well as some other stuff. This has been going really slow the last week because I've been busy, and all these front axle parts looked like they spent a few years underwater before I sandblasted and painted/rebuilt them.



Also, here is a neat idea. At some time in the past, a previous owner of this 60 front drilled the hubs for grease fittings. Unfortunately, I need to run spacers in the front for stock H1 wheels and these will be in the way, so I pulled them out and welded up the holes. I might re-drill and tap them further out later because it is such a good idea.

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Finally buckling up the 60 rebuild.

Ran a tap through all the holes just to make sure. Several were buggered up with rust/crap , so I was glad I did this.



Decided to perform a full circle clip conversion, eliminating the C-clips on the axle U-joints. I tried several ways to remove the extra material from the shafts. First I took my Dewalt grinder to them, that was too messy and I couldn't get the nice surfaces I wanted. Secondly I tried the Dremel, but it went through blades too quickly and the entire job would have taken days. Third try was the charm. I chocked up a cutting blade into my die grinder and voila! It worked great.





The clips proved to be a trick to find. I needed 1 3/8 clips, but all the ones I found at local auto parts and hardware stores were just a bit too loose or a bit too tight. So I called up Lucas (lgottler) and he got me these from McMaster. They are dead on and just the perfect size. Plus they came in a bag of 25, so I have some for my other axles.









These should come from the factory this way. I was much more satisfied to hear "click" when they snapped in place



Here is another idea I came up with. I had two spare plastic spindle thrust bushings, so I filed a bit out of the center of them and installed one on each inner shaft. I'm hoping this will act as a secondary seal. When I installed them in the axle, they made the shafts a bit tight, but I can still turn them. I believe they will wear down into a nice size to keep the big stuff out.

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Old March 15th, 2010, 07:55 PM   #40
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Seriously awesome... Can't wait to see the finished project.

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