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Old February 20th, 2010, 12:44 AM   #1
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Ok.. I have the 2.5L in my YJ jeep with the AX-5 trans. But I've been thinking about swapping engines. My friend has a spare I6 out of his 87 Camache. He has the engine and trans. But the trans is an auto. I'm not a fan of an auto trans in anything I drive but there are some situations when I've been out wheelin and I said to my self "damn, wish I had an auto trans so I don't have to work the clutch so hard".

So I guess my question here is. What do you guys prefer when your out wheelin. Do you guys like the manual trans, or the auto trans? I guess what your into would make a difference. I.E. rocks, mud, sand etc..

Just let me know what you guys think about both sides of the argument.

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Old February 20th, 2010, 01:14 AM   #2
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I prefer an auto off road, especially when crawling and climbing. The TC acts like an infinite gear reduction (no need to slip a clutch). It makes everything so much easier, and really lowers the pucker factor when starting on steep climbs.


BTW, I own a JK with a manual.
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Old February 20th, 2010, 04:14 AM   #3
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have you researched whats involved with swapping out to that 6cyl. yet?
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personally, I prefer a stick (choose the gear, compression breakng, overheating not an issue) but the auto has several advantages (better gear reduction, quicker and easier shifts without rolling back in between gears, no clutch to get wet or burn out, less to pay attention to when your attention is already elsewhere)

I have problems with my left knee, so a manual trans is out of the question for me...do some research on whatever auto trans you think you want to run, there are usually several tricks to make them work better, for example, the AW4.
Its an auto, that can be setup to run like a manual with no clutch. It controls what gear its in by energizing or de-energizing a couple of solenoids, so you can install a toggle switch to shut off the TCM, and then a couple more so you can decide what gear it is in, and it will stay in that gear...change the switch, and it changes gears...you can then add another switch to control TC lockup, which would give you the compression breaking of a manual trans....when your off the trail, flip the first switch back to turn the TCM back on, and its back to stock computer control...
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have you researched whats involved with swapping out to that 6cyl. yet?
Not yet. I'm not sure I want to go to the auto trans yet. I love driving manual trannys and typically they are more stout. If I decide that I want to go to the auto trans with the I6 engine. I'll do more research. But as of right now I'm just trying to get some opinions about the auto trans before I make a decision.

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personally, I prefer a stick (choose the gear, compression breakng, overheating not an issue) but the auto has several advantages (better gear reduction, quicker and easier shifts without rolling back in between gears, no clutch to get wet or burn out, less to pay attention to when your attention is already elsewhere)

I have problems with my left knee, so a manual trans is out of the question for me...do some research on whatever auto trans you think you want to run, there are usually several tricks to make them work better, for example, the AW4.
Its an auto, that can be setup to run like a manual with no clutch. It controls what gear its in by energizing or de-energizing a couple of solenoids, so you can install a toggle switch to shut off the TCM, and then a couple more so you can decide what gear it is in, and it will stay in that gear...change the switch, and it changes gears...you can then add another switch to control TC lockup, which would give you the compression breaking of a manual trans....when your off the trail, flip the first switch back to turn the TCM back on, and its back to stock computer control...
I'm sure they are both going to have Pros and Cons. But I don't plan on doing any crawling or climbing much. Just strictly trail riding and playing in the mud. So maybe I won't need an auto trans. I might even be able to just pick up the I6 engine and match it with a Manual trans of my choice for a little extra. All in all that is bad ass how much you can control those auto's with all the switches and make then run how you want when you want. I wasn't away you could do that kinda stuff. That is something that is great to know about.
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if you want to play in the mud, run auto...the tires will stop spinning in between shifts with a manual and you will lose forward momentum, which leaves you with either being stuck to a single gear, or just plain stuck

trailriding can go either way, both have benefits for trails

for mud, autos have more pros then cons, and manuals have more cons then pros
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