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Old February 16th, 2010, 08:54 AM   #61
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Yeah, I hear you on the drive slugs but I really want to keep lockouts.
I was saying that so you could isolate the problem, not have a permanent "fix" out of them.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 09:03 AM   #62
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the terraflex is the same lockout as dynatrac, just a different name.
Before getting too high up on your horse.... I looked at them and they are MILES different. The locking mechanism on the dynalocks are heat treated alloy steel from billet. The tera flex lockouts still use the die cast engagement piece which is very similar to all the other lockouts out there aside from the dynaloc and the factory fords from the early days.

http://www.teraflex.biz/?wpv_file_id...f8c111372250f6

http://www.dynatrac.com/products_dynaloc.html

So at best you could say they are marginally better if they are a made from more robust materials but they dont come close to a dynaloc.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 09:32 AM   #63
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teraflex site sucks. You have to suscribe to see products.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 09:35 AM   #64
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i already told you what goes wrong with them...damn your getting old.and i also stated the best one for the money is the terraflex.this is not from hear say, this is from seat of the pants watching them break.i have already been through all the lockout issues and tried a bunch of different stuff..yes i am welded in the front so it is a little harder on parts.but this is what i found holds up best for 35 spline stuff.
i also think the warn premiums are the worst lockouts for 35 spline stuff...they are better for the 30 spline,i think because there is more material inside.dynatrac ones are the best, but big money!!the terraflex is the same lockout as dynatrac, just a different name.
Not to be a dick here but you're not known for being easy on your shit. If Becky took her driving lessons from you, who knows.

I haven't taken the time to research on Pirate yet but if Warn has such a shitty reputation, I would think there would be loads of writeups about it.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 11:07 AM   #65
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thats my point!!..me along with the guys i run with drive the pee out of there rigs. have seen too many broken warns,have had too many issues with getting them warrantied also.

your right bryce the inners on the terraflex are not as good as the dynatrac.but they last alot better then the rest.

i gave up on lockouts and run flanges..wish i could run them but i broke way too many.
the bad thing about the original fords is they suck locking in and out. they are still the best for 30 spline. making them 35 spline is taking out too much beef in my opinion.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 11:26 AM   #66
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the bad thing about the original fords is they suck locking in and out. they are still the best for 30 spline. making them 35 spline is taking out too much beef in my opinion.
While researching lockout options I could not find reference to anyone that had broken a Spicer 60 lockout 30 or 35 spline. I had Spicer lockouts on my 44, and your right they absolutely where a PITA to lock and unlock, but I never broke one. I went from breaking a lockout every trip (sometimes two) to shattering shafts instead. The D44 Spicers are similar design to the Dynatrac 60 ones.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 11:59 AM   #67
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Daryl,
I would agree. I kept hearing about people blowing hubs & I never broke a stock hub on my D44 or D60. But, I figured when I upgraded shafts I would upgrade lockouts. Now the Warns may not have been a good choice.

Who do you know besides Erin & Becky that have blown them? Is it a nationwide problem or a possible problem with a batch run?
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:01 PM   #68
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this jeep runs Terra Flex lock outs. And after seeing the inside of both the Warns and these I will never run Warns on my Jeep again, same price but alot more beef, real steal instead of powdered metal. The reason he switched to these was he had went through about 6 or 7 Warns and our friend at the parts counter got sick of warranting them out every other weekend.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:12 PM   #69
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For the record guys, powdered metal does not necessarily mean lower quality.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:19 PM   #70
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But a 7 to 1 ratio does
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:24 PM   #71
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And I'm sorry I miss spoke early'er about never hearing about a problem with a Detroit again the jeep above had a simular problem when he had a dana 44 in the front with a detriot. We took it apart and found a few teeth had some akward wear so we took the spring out making it pretty much a spool and never had an issue again. Cheap and easy.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:24 PM   #72
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what ratio?
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:26 PM   #73
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7 broke Warns to 1 terra flex that has yet to brake.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #74
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Do the teraflex have a lifetime warrenty? Cuz if i brake 1 more warn, its flanges or something diff.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:37 PM   #75
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Tera Low Lockout Hubs

These new Dana 60, 35 spline locking hubs are made of metal. With a quarter turn to engage there's nothing close that compares. These hubs are bullet proof.

Tera Low Lockout Hubs $212.95 Delivered!


This is from Sam's 4x4 I'm not sure on the warranty but I'll be talking to my friend later and I'll ask him.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 01:05 PM   #76
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real steal instead of powdered metal.
Prove it.


If you need drive flanges, you arent going to get lockouts to survive. There is a point when lockouts do not last and drive flanges are manditory. Jim is not to that point and I dont think he will ever get there. Dynalocs are bridging the gap but not at an affordable price.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 02:30 PM   #77
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I have canceled the Warn order and have the Terra Flex lockouts coming for Jim.

Warranty is 1 year with the Terra product, call me for a more in depth report from Terra if anyone else is interested in these.

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Old February 16th, 2010, 02:59 PM   #78
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The reason for changing from Warn to Terra Flex? Warns are still on back order. Wonder why?????
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Old February 16th, 2010, 08:28 PM   #79
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Dana 60 Drive Flange Kit - 35 Spline Drive Slugs - Dana 60 Drive Flanges/Slugs

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Dana 60 Drive Flange Kit

Can't keep your locking hubs from breaking, upgrade to this Dana 60 Drive Flange kit with 35 spline drive slugs
Dana 60 Drive Flange Kit w/Slugs includes:

2- Drive Slugs
2- Aluminum Cap
2- Cold Roll Steel Retention Ring
2- Axle Clip Rings
2- Hub Clip Rings
2- O-rings
8- Stainless Socket head cap screws

Our Hub Slug kits are made from 8620 alloy and hardened to RC 60. These drive spline slugs are made in the USA to our exacting specifications. These come with a lifetime replacement warranty. You can also remove the slug for street driving while keeping the caps firmly attached w/ the included retention ring.

Price: $205.00



So, what is the opinion on these? Seems the better way to go if you can just remove a piece for street driving.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #80
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Wow, Rc60, seems mighty hard.
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