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Old November 17th, 2011, 07:15 PM   #161
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still have quite a bit of work to do on cross member but here is where im at now.


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Old November 17th, 2011, 07:18 PM   #162
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i will add more gussets to it and box in link mounts. have to fit it and locate passanger side lower link yet. will be tricky due to the dodge axle center being so far over to passanger side.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #163
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This will bolt through the frame rails four bolts on each side.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 10:38 PM   #164
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So is your upper mounted directly next to the lower on the crossmember, or are the mounts just sitting in place in the pic? If that's the actual finished location you're completely defeating the purpose of doing a 3 link over a radius arm setup.....mounting the upper and lower at essentially the same point on the frame(0" vertical separation in this case) will act exactly as if it were a radius arm setup. Doesn't matter if you mount the upper to the lower arm or at the frame itself at the same point, it's still the same basic geometry. All you're doing this way is adding an additional mount, more weight, and less clearances around the upper link.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 05:10 AM   #165
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Yeah I see your point and thanks for the input. I started out going to due the "fork or Y desine" that would be ok but I have 7075 aluminum links so there was no way that I wanted to attach them to each other. And with the clearance that I have up in-between frame and trans this is all that can be done at this point. Sure I could separate the link pockets and move one down under the frame. Then I would lose my goal of having a flat belly pan. I have been hung up way to many times on rocks and hills to not go this route. also I think the joints should twist much more than Radius arm. This was my thoughts
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Old November 18th, 2011, 10:48 AM   #166
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Makes sense about the aluminum links but I imagine you could get at least SOME vertical separation with a little creativity. Even moving the lower down 1" and the upper up 1-2" would be a good improvement and probably not much trouble. Looks like you could drop the lower 1" without any real loss of clearance....if nothing else having the LCA mount slightly below the crossmember will help it slide over, rather than having a lip to catch on if the bottom of the LCA is higher than the bottom of the crossmember. I know most people running 3 links on XJs have to cut into the floor for the upper....they usually run the upper on the passenger side so the driver doesn't lose footroom, plus the obvious clearance advantages with the usual exhaust and driver's drop axle(I haven't looked back on the thread, but I assume yours is passenger drop with the D300). You're very unlikely to be maxing out the joints either way so I wouldn't worry too much about that part.
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Old November 19th, 2011, 06:08 PM   #167
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After I get it all mocked up I will see if I can make the upper link mount 2 inches higher and have room for exhaust. Still have to make room for pass side link.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 09:25 AM   #168
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Ok so I put the crossmember up and I will not beable to move the upper link mount up and have room to run the exhaust. So after doing some research I decided to move lower link mounts down 1.5 inches this will give me about 3 total inches of separation. I think this will work out much better the link mounts should just peek out of the skid plate and the lower links will act like a ramp to bellypan.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 09:34 AM   #169
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will be like this but i have Pass drop so lower link on axle will be on tube not truss.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 09:35 AM   #170
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What if you just do a 3-link on the passenger side and put the upper thru the floor? You could get the same separation as you have at the axle end and the 3-link will probably work better anyway.

edit: Sorry I posted at the same time as your last. I thought you were doing a 4-link.
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will be like this but i have Pass drop so lower link on axle will be on tube not truss.
you would gane so much more by putting it oon the tube of the axle vers `trying to make it work on the truss. just ask skooterbuilt
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I wish there was room to do a 4 link but with the dodge front axle and the Dana 300 there is no room over there at all.
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you would gane so much more by putting it oon the tube of the axle vers `trying to make it work on the truss. just ask skooterbuilt
thats the plan
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Ok I made some changes to the crossmember thanks for the input would hate to over look something this far into the build. I now have 4 inches of separation between the upper and lower link mounts. I also had to notch and box it back in to clear the Dana 300 it was touching in a few places. I'll post a few pic's after the paint dries.
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I wish there was room to do a 4 link but with the dodge front axle and the Dana 300 there is no room over there at all.
A parallel 4 link or triangulated? Parallel would introduce bind under articulation, you're better off with the 3 link, it'll just be harder on the upper link. Triangulated would work well, but you'd either need hydro steering, an overly complex bellcrank system, or deal with tons of bumpsteer.

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Ok I made some changes to the crossmember thanks for the input would hate to over look something this far into the build. I now have 4 inches of separation between the upper and lower link mounts. I also had to notch and box it back in to clear the Dana 300 it was touching in a few places. I'll post a few pic's after the paint dries.
Sounds much better than what you had before Running the upper on the tube you'll definitely want to weld the tubes to the diff, run a truss with tie-ins if possible, etc....spinning the housing would ruin your day in a hurry. It can be done just fine, just need to add a few details to make sure it holds up.
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Ok so here is the new crossmember. very happy with how it turned out....
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Here is the lower links and how they hang down. i will plate them so they wont hang up when belly hung. ramp from rear to skid plate.
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