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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:26 AM   #1
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Which one do you think people will feel most comfortable, or should feel most comfortable buying cars from going forward?

Put everything behind them this is going forward.

Next, who will remain in trouble and why?

I didn't do a poll because I want to know why.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:29 AM   #2
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Right now people are most comfortable buying from Ford.
People are afraid their car will not be serviced once GM/Chrysler go out of business.

I think GM pulls through.
Chrysler is on life support.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:31 AM   #3
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ford or gm. i personally don't care for chysler products
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:34 AM   #4
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Right now people are most comfortable buying from Ford.
People are afraid their car will not be serviced once GM/Chrysler go out of business.

I think GM pulls through.
Chrysler is on life support.
I agree 100%.

1) Ford
2) GM
3) Chrysler
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If I was buying new, Ford. Independantly owned, no guberment infiltration. However I really like the new gmc sierra's and will probably buy an 08+ 4 door 4wd in the next couple months.
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Ford, Toyota, then those other two companies that won't be around much longer.
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I can get employee discounts for anyone for a Chrysler. Too bad its not a big discount anymore.
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Ford, Toyota, then those other two companies that won't be around much longer.
I believe this is now the dumbest statement I've read on this site.

You do realize Toyota is, and will continue to struggle.
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Investigation into their ABS
Both US and Japan government reviewing their practices
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1) Ford
2) GM
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194)DongFeng motors
195) Chrysler

We design for all of them.

Chrysler is targeting a return to profitiability in 2014.. They were absolutely decimated last year. THe problem I see with them is what they are looking into. All over the map. Crazy ideas they don't have the resources to pull off. And their ideas don't look as well executed as the more manageable things that we see from Ford and GM, anyway.

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I'm with most folks. Ford #1, GM #2, and Chrysler needs a miracle.

Two things I'm interested in seeing:

1) Will Toyota suffer long-term for these recalls
2) Who will get a surge from their short term suffering? Will it be Ford & GM, or will Korean brands and Honda get a boost? Or Europeans?

My question is based on the fact that people thought Toyota and all Japanese mfr's were invincible. Some felt the same about the Koreans.

Now that Toytota, the bigest of the Asian mfr's is stumbling, will people loose faith in all Japanese products? Will it extend to all Asian products? Or will it just be Toyota, or none at all?
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Hyundai-Kia are on an amazing run.
It scares me what they are accomplishing.
And the thing with them.......they own (or are owned) by EVERYTHING they are involved with. Suppliers/Shipping Companies/Sequencers/Press lines/ETC/ETC/ETC
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Doesn't matter.

I'm not due to buy a brand new car for another 25 years.
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Hyundai-Kia are on an amazing run.
It scares me what they are accomplishing.
And the thing with them.......they own (or are owned) by EVERYTHING they are involved with. Suppliers/Shipping Companies/Sequencers/Press lines/ETC/ETC/ETC
Yes, they have made amazing strides in the last 15 years. I remember a Kia we did some development on in 96, and it looked like a Windstar copy, but of even lower quality. The stuff they are cranking out looks nice, and some of their stuff is getting good jd powers numbers.

Oh.. another thing. Will Consumer Reports lose face since they have championed Toyotas while they have eroded their quality?
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I believe this is now the dumbest statement I've read on this site.

You do realize Toyota is, and will continue to struggle.
4M vehicles recalled
Investigation into their ABS
Both US and Japan government reviewing their practices

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Unfortunately Toyota is too big to have one recall bring them down. I worked for Chrysler for 10 years and I am worried about them. My mom just traded in her Charger for a Taurus and you can't even compare the 2 for the money. The Taurus is not a car I would choose but is the best car in it's class for the money IMO.

Ford is gonna be fine. I think GM has enough going on to pull through. I can only pray for Chrysler, they are in trouble and don't even have anyting to pull them out of it. It is sad because most of my friends work there. Toyota will continue to dominate. This problem will pass and they will continue to compete for the top spot. Sad but true.
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Hyundai/Kia is doing big things. We have been exanding our work with them a lot over the last 2-3 years.
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So the US Gov't owns GM and Chrysler.



The US government is hammering toyota right now..




Don't you think that is kind of odd?
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It will definately be interesting to see the long term effects on Toyota. They are pretty techno-phobic, afraid of new ideas and dictating you to do things their way, even when they are archaic, expensive, and outdated. But they cling to that because they believe its proven so they will never change it and stick it in everything they do. (some of their electronics are absolutely laughable they are so outdated)

Now they have problem that cuts right to the heart of it, and hits them across the board. Instead of allowing suppliers to have the normally healthy process of new innovations, they force a bad design on everything.
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