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Old February 1st, 2010, 08:21 AM   #1
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Default Gooseneck vs 5th wheel

I am looking to get a 35' 21K GVW gooseneck/5th wheel trailer. Beofre I get it I need to decide how I want it mounted in the bed. If you could help me with a few questions that would be awesome.

1. Which setup is stronger?

2. Is it just personal preference or is one really better?

3. What do you use (if you do) and how do you like it? Any drawbacks?

Thanks for any help you can provide.


I will be towing the trailer with a 2001 4 door F350 with a 7.3 if that matters.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 09:03 AM   #2
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with th 5th wheel trailer it allows you to pull a second trailer.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 09:26 AM   #3
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the main reason for 5th wheel set ups are so it limits the amount of movement of the trailer from side to side. fifth wheel trailers usually have a side to side overhang over the truck bed that would interfere with the truck bed if the trailer articulates from side to side.

thus, goose neck trailers are more ideal for driving on uneven ground.

fifth wheels are easier to hook up, and allow you to tow a trailer behind it if so desired.(with a license endorsement and other restrictions such as length)

there are many different hitch designs out there so i dont feel that one is better than the other, they are just different and some are better suited for certain uses.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 09:39 AM   #4
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ive got one broken rear window from a fifth wheel and none from a goose neck... i vote goose.

and yes it was driver error so take my vote for what it is...
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Old February 1st, 2010, 10:24 AM   #5
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with th 5th wheel trailer it allows you to pull a second trailer.
im pretty sure you can tow a trailer behind a goose neck too..
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Old February 1st, 2010, 12:02 PM   #6
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im pretty sure you can tow a trailer behind a goose neck too..

I think it's people... no people behind a ball. at least that's what I remember.

I'm up in the air on this one also. I'd like to get a bigger trailer to pull 2 rigs with but a bumper pull isnt the way to do it.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 12:08 PM   #7
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im pretty sure you can tow a trailer behind a goose neck too..
I think you can tow a trailer behind a traler as long as the one connected to the truck is a clevis mount or 5th wheel
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Lots of guessing and assuming going on in this thread, which is fine as nobody has claimed any of it to be fact.

Lets start with 5th wheels, aka king pin and it is what is used on tractor trailer set ups. Most all camping units have this style coupling device unless ordered otherwise. Several versions of the king pin set up can be found from different manufacturers in several different weight capacities.

Goosenecks, ball and socket style are usually reserved for more commercial applications such as equipment trailers, livestock trailers and car haulers such as the Take Three and enclosed Haulmark brand type race car trailers.

Your choice of what type of hitch to use is going to be based on which type of trailer you will be using, you decide what the trailer it is going to be before you put a hitch in your truck. You will be hard pressed to find an open deck car hauler with a king pin coupler, likewise you will find it difficult to buy a "Jayco" with a gooseneck.

You can however find enclosed car hauling trailers with both, but the gooseneck being more common. Goosenecks in an open deck design do offer more movement of the tongue vs a 5er. However in an enclosed style or camping unit the gooseneck design can bite you if you traverse uneven terrain, ie dented box sides and tailgates.

95geo is correct about the ball found in the gooseneck configuration not having passengers allowed. Not a concern unless you are buying an enclosed car hauler and will have people riding in it. You also cannot tow double with a ball style setup on the first coupled unit.

Goosenecks have a higher available weight rating than a king pin, I sell them up to a 40,000 pound rating and my highest king pin is 26,000 pounds.

Whatever you decide on for your trailer there is a hitch that will work for both styles should you find yourself needing to tow both. B&W Hitch as well as a couple others have a setup that can convert to both styles in a matter of minutes.

Need a price on either hitch or a convertible one give me a shout.

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Old February 1st, 2010, 01:44 PM   #9
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im pretty sure you can tow a trailer behind a goose neck too..
Ironman pretty much covered that.

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I think you can tow a trailer behind a trailer as long as the one connected to the truck is a clevis mount or 5th wheel
i've never heard about the clevis mount being allowed to have another trailer behind it, anybody got any source to back that claim up?
maybe something to do with the semi trailer dollies?
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I think you can tow a trailer behind a traler as long as the one connected to the truck is a clevis mount or 5th wheel
Clevis doesn't cut it for pulling doubles... As Ironman said you can only pull a second trailer behind a 5th wheel... You will also need a CDL with a doubles (T) endorsement or you will need a RV license endorsement on you regular operatorís license so that you can pull a trailer behind your 5th wheel.
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as far as doubles trust no one but the MDOT or in this case Iron man

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/re...le_21025_7.pdf

for commercial its different as its regulated by the federal Dot RV are not as to many loop hole so they washed their hands of RV useage

Me I can tow what i want as I have a CDL with all the endorsement so long as the rig for fill all requirements I can drive it
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Old February 1st, 2010, 07:51 PM   #12
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Thanks for the help. It is appreciated.

Ironman you have a pm.
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I run the b&w gooseneck and it is great.
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