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Old January 26th, 2010, 09:57 PM   #1
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I am looking at a 99 2500 ram with the 24v cummins, is there anything I need to look out for? Any known problems with them? The truck has 280,000 miles on it, the truck seems to run really good, the owner (one owner) has paper work for all the work that has been done so I know it was taken car of. Any thoughts on how many miles to expect out of that cummins?
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Old January 26th, 2010, 10:02 PM   #2
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As long as the turbo spools, the rest of the truck should be just fine... Just curious how much is he asking for the truck?
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Old January 26th, 2010, 10:06 PM   #3
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I am looking at a 99 2500 ram with the 24v cummins, is there anything I need to look out for? Any known problems with them? The truck has 280,000 miles on it, the truck seems to run really good, the owner (one owner) has paper work for all the work that has been done so I know it was taken car of. Any thoughts on how many miles to expect out of that cummins?
The biggest thing to look out for is the injection pump. The stock lift pumps on the 24v's were weak. It's common for the VP44 injection pump to run itself dry and seize up, since the stock lift pumps can't keep up. I would definitely make sure the VP44 has been replaced. If it has, I'd also make sure it has an aftermarket lift pump, such as a FASS or Air Dog. If not, you could be risking having to replace another seized VP44. Also, it would be a bonus if the truck has a fuel pressure gauge installed. If it does, you shouldn't see any less than 15 psi at idle.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 10:11 PM   #4
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I know he said he has changed the pump at least one time, not sure if it's a stock replacment. How much are the good pumps?

Not sure on a price right now he wasnt going to sell it, so he is looking into what its worth.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 10:17 PM   #5
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I know he said he has changed the pump at least one time, not sure if it's a stock replacment. How much are the good pumps?

Not sure on a price right now he wasnt going to sell it, so he is looking into what its worth.
A good remanufactured pump will run about $1000-1200. I would find out when it was last changed. A good aftermarket lift pump and a fuel pressure gauge is mandatory if you want to keep the pump alive.
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Old January 27th, 2010, 07:41 AM   #6
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I just replaced my lift pump with a raptor 150gph, so vp44 and all 6 injectors for 1800 at superior diesel.
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Old January 27th, 2010, 03:14 PM   #7
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should I be worried about the 280,000 miles
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Old January 27th, 2010, 03:24 PM   #8
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should I be worried about the 280,000 miles
as long as it's takin care of some cummins have seen a 500.000 before anything needed to be done to them..
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Old January 27th, 2010, 03:39 PM   #9
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i wouldn't be worried about the mileage, if u can look through the records and
see if the pump has been replaced and if ur gonna turn it up i would see if the
trans has replaced or rebuilt. look over the front end as well, with that kind of
mileage it maybe loose.
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take the intake tube off by the turbo and grab the nut on the end of the turbo see if it has any movement side to side or in and out. Also ask the guy if the Freaking block heater works. Just my .02
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manual trans, front end is really tight no play anywhere
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so I have been reading a lot about these trucks and everywhere I look they talk about the "53" block, any thoughts on that. Some say it's junk others say they run it hard and have never had an issue.
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so I have been reading a lot about these trucks and everywhere I look they talk about the "53" block, any thoughts on that. Some say it's junk others say they run it hard and have never had an issue.
The 53 blocks have had a slight history of cracking. However, it doesn't mean it will. Many people have driven trucks with the 53 block hundreds of thousands of miles and have never had a problem. Also, most of the blocks that have cracked have done so under serious load, with the majority pulling large loads up super steep grades, like through the mountains. It's easy to tell if it's a 53 block. Look under the left side front side of the block to see if there is "53" stamped just above where the oil pan meets the block.
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The oil pressure in this truck is slow to come up, when you start it the oil pressure is at zero for a good 5 or 6 seconds, when it comes up it is almost 85lbs. I'm not sure what to think with a high reading of oil pressure, bearings should be good with that pressure, as well as the pump. Almost like the pump looses prime everytime you shut it off. There doesnt seem to be any engine noise on start up, kind of hard to tell since the truck is so loud though. Any ideas?
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Old February 24th, 2010, 06:46 PM   #15
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Maybe just a crappy sending unit ?
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Every newer (2nd gen for sure) dodge does that. Check out www.cumminsforum.com for some info. My 95 does it, Be careful if it has a 53 block. My buddys just cracked at 220,000 miles. We are putting a long block in it. Be good to it and let it warm up for 10 min on cold mornings.
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my 99 cracked the 53 block at 300,000 miles still ran good just leaked changed the rear diff bearings at 275,000 they were so wore out they had just spun the races in the housing caught it before it did any damage changed both upper ball joints pan hard bar was replaced twice block heater went bad long time ago think thats all been a great truck have gotten as good as 23 miles per gallon just got it back from the block crack put a 2002 ho motor in it (don't do it lots of problems)
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Oil psi gage is about the last thing to see pressure in these engines. I would not worry about it. I do suggest keeping the idle around 1100 rpm for the first few minutes to get the oil flowing etc...
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I agree with everyone. If nothing (chip, module, programmer, etc.) has been done, you shouldn't have to worry too much about fuel issues. And being that it's a 99 with a 24v, a lot of those lift pumps got replaced under a recall, and with it came the injector pump. These trucks run forever, and with the manual trans, you can't go wrong!!! The only thing to worry about with that is the clutch if you start doing mods. Other than that, you will love it!!!
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