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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:12 AM   #1
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does anyone have a home telephone anymore? i used to have one but with prices being so expensive i got rid of it. i'm tempted to get home service again though just for emergencies and so my gf doesn't have to take my phone all the time to call someone.
whats the cheapest service available? don't need long distance local only. i've heard about that magic jack and others that hack phone service into your internet but i'm skeptical if they work or not.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:14 AM   #2
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i have home phone...local only comes out to about 10 a month or so
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:15 AM   #3
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I need a cheaper one, I pay 50 bucks a month for local, there is only one company where I live. Fuck Verizon.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:18 AM   #4
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There is nothing sketchy about magic jack. It's just dependent on your computer always being on, decent internet, but don't have the best service. Have you looked into other IP phone services such as Vonage or Skype?
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:19 AM   #5
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we retain a home phone because:

a land line and a hard wired phone will give you a little more privacy.

a land line is independent of your home electrical supply and MAY remain usable when your power goes out. if the power goes out you'll need to use the hard wired handset and the remote phone won't have juice to transmit to the base.

a land line will allow use the use of (the old school) fax machine.

if your cable service goes out, your cable provided phone service may go with it.

i feels worth it to have a couple of ways to communicate.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:20 AM   #6
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i've heard about that magic jack and others that hack phone service into your internet but i'm skeptical if they work or not.
this is called voice over IP and a legitimate service. No hacking involved. I have been using Vonage for a few years now and it works good. My dad uses it and takes his box to FL every year so his "home" phone number follows him around. A high speed internet connection is required. I read a review of "sold on TV" products and the magic jack was one of the few that actually worked as described. That is all I know about magic jack
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:22 AM   #7
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a land line will allow use the use of (the old school) fax machine.

I have tried to use Vonage for my fax machine and it failed twice. I am thinking of using a internet fax service that will e-mail my faxes to me. anyone have experience with this? cost?
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:33 AM   #8
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I have a magic jack and it works fine unless you are downloading a bunch of stuff then it gets real choppy...I need to figure out a way to dedicate a certain amount of bandwidth for just the magic jack. We got it when it first come out just for the kids to use and to make long distance phone calls. Our friggin phone bill is like $400 a month, everything is AT&T, 6mb internet, house phone, uverse tv and 6 cell phones.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 12:29 PM   #9
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I use Vonage. Works pretty well, I've never not had service when I needed it. My U-Verse Internet uptime is pretty close to 100% (far better than Comcast in my area).

I had some voice quality issues a while back, but my Vonage unit had been on for more than a year, and a reboot fixed everything.

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I have tried to use Vonage for my fax machine and it failed twice. I am thinking of using a internet fax service that will e-mail my faxes to me. anyone have experience with this? cost?
This is because VoIP uses compression algorithms that don't work well with fax.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 12:43 PM   #10
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We have a home phone still. Its the only inexpensive way to the web we've found.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 12:48 PM   #11
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I have tried to use Vonage for my fax machine and it failed twice. I am thinking of using a internet fax service that will e-mail my faxes to me. anyone have experience with this? cost?
I've been using this...
http://www.efax.com/

For how few faxes I send and receive the free service is more than enough.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 12:48 PM   #12
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ok cuz i have att internet and tv, don't feel like adding onto my already expensive policy for added phone. i was skeptical about that magic jack thing but now i know it works maybe the 20 expense for it is worth getting basically free phone service.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 12:51 PM   #13
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we retain a home phone because:

a land line and a hard wired phone will give you a little more privacy.
You can get secure cell phones :)
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 12:52 PM   #14
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This is because VoIP uses compression algorithms that don't work well with fax.
I always had the understanding that fax was designed for analog systems which with the new digital systems it would not work? Or is that what you mean? The digital is compressed?
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 01:06 PM   #15
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I always had the understanding that fax was designed for analog systems which with the new digital systems it would not work? Or is that what you mean? The digital is compressed?
Sounds like you're talking about cases where a company has an internal PBX that is digital out to the handset, so you can't plug a modem or fax into that line due to incompatibilities.

Your home phone is still analog, even when you're using VoIP. There is an analog to digital conversion, as well as compression that occurs within your VoIP unit. The compression is designed for voice and tends to murder things like fax and modem streams. Basically, it's a lossy compression, like MP3. You won't hear the difference in a voice convo, but your fax machine isn't going to be happy.

Here's a paper I googled on the topic, I just skimmed it, it sounds fairly accurate.

http://hylafax.sourceforge.net/docs/fax-over-voip.pdf
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 01:34 PM   #16
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If it's available in your area, check with your cable provider. Voice over IP (VoIP) phone services are quite cheap. I have VoIP phone service, cable, and internet through AT&T U-Verse. I love it, and cheaper than Comcast.

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does anyone have a home telephone anymore? i used to have one but with prices being so expensive i got rid of it. i'm tempted to get home service again though just for emergencies and so my gf doesn't have to take my phone all the time to call someone.
whats the cheapest service available? don't need long distance local only. i've heard about that magic jack and others that hack phone service into your internet but i'm skeptical if they work or not.
You should tell your girlfriend to get her own cell phone, like most adults.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 01:38 PM   #17
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 01:48 PM   #18
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You should tell your girlfriend to get her own cell phone, like most adults.
You might be onto something here... he may be dating a child.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 02:05 PM   #19
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If it's available in your area, check with your cable provider. Voice over IP (VoIP) phone services are quite cheap. I have VoIP phone service, cable, and internet through AT&T U-Verse. I love it, and cheaper than Comcast.



You should tell your girlfriend to get her own cell phone, like most adults.
she had a phone. then she broke it and couldn't afford another one. good enough answer?
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 02:45 PM   #20
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she had a phone. then she broke it and couldn't afford another one. good enough answer?
No, an AT&T Go-Phone at walmart is $20, and it comes with 250 free minutes. So that's not a good enough answer. (The only reason I know this is because my brother fucked up his iPhone when he dropped it into some water and needed a temporary phone until he got into the apple store to get a new one. You can pop in your AT&T Sim card and you're back in business... just sort of a "throw away" phone.)

Tell her to get a job and buy one. Got pics of this girl? If she's decent, I might have a pay-as-you-go phone (my AT&T throw away phone in case something happens to my iPhone) that I could donate to her that has a ton of minutes on it
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