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Old January 14th, 2010, 06:13 PM   #1
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I've always had a job since I was 15, and I'm lucky and have never really been unemployed. I had an acquaintance call me at work today so that he could get some contact info from one of my employers contracting companys and seek a job. I like this guy, he usually does odd jobs for money under the table, and he's a good guy. I give him the contact information, letting him know that they work 12 hours a day on a 3,2 and 2 schedule, they start out at about $10 an hour, it can go up to $14 an hour if you pan out, all the overtime you can handle, but its a mindless, boring job many miles from his home.

After he and I run the numbers and calculate his take home and additional driving costs, it turns out that he would only be $30 a month ahead from the sparse jobs he does now. Why only $30? Well his wife collects SS for a medical issue as well. Getting a job modifies that income. I can understand that. After we come to that conclusion, he mentions to me that he can file as a full time caretaker for his wife, and get additional income to supplement the SS, which SURPASSES the income he would get with a full time job starting at $10 an hour, even without the additional odd jobs. This blew my mind, and now I'm stuck in WTF mode....Can someone do that? Is it that easy? Am I just a dick who can no longer relate to the unemployed?
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Old January 14th, 2010, 06:27 PM   #2
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there are too many ways through and around the system, thats for sure.
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Old January 14th, 2010, 08:15 PM   #3
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Unfortunatly we have a system and a government, especially the current administration, that rewards people for NOT working and making better of themselves. I compare it to the union mentality.............
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Old January 14th, 2010, 08:34 PM   #4
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I guess the real question is, can you blame him (if he goes that route)?
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Old January 14th, 2010, 09:18 PM   #5
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Well, since his wife needs a caretaker and he can fulfill the job, I don't see any difference if he gets paid or someone else does(??)

The better alternative would be for him to stop doing odd jobs, learn a marketable skill or get a better education so he can make more money than what the caretaker role would pay...as in a lot more...
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If his wife actually needs a caretaker and he has the necessary skills, then it would make sense for him to do that. If she doesn't and he could just do that to be a leech, then he's just a drain on society. Having personally provided care for many patients, I will tell you that it's not easy and can be very frustrating at times.
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I guess the real question is, can you blame him (if he goes that route)?
Nope, can't blame him. Maybe I just have a bad impression of SS, I've seen it abused so many times, including with my own mother, and as I prepare my taxes, I've paid about $17K in fed, state etc for 2009 and its a shitty reminder of how that money can be misapplied.

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It sounds like he has exhausted his options. IMO he should take the caretaker pay, while educating himself and when he is ready to step into a new career he can leave the caretaking position.

At least he is trying to find a job, not just sukcing off the governments tit as soon as he can.
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Old January 15th, 2010, 08:44 AM   #9
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its true you get SS even with a job. my wife got it back in the day even with me working because we didn't make over take the minimum requirement. she got medical & food stamps, plus paid half the bills. I let my boss know everyday how the state was still carrying me even with the pay I got there. just goes to show how bad some jobs do pay and where the median income is set.
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I think to each his own, everyone has a different sistuation in life everyone has different wants and needs in life, and if you spend to much time worring about the system that is in place you can become consumed with every possible problem with the system in your life, we have all seen how someone can become consumed and stuck with in the systems, look at GM and CHRYSLER there stuck in the system!
Ford will prevail because they are not contrlled by the government!

All I know is as a country we are in a hooo heap of trouble, and when unemployment runs out and there are not jobs to keep us moving foward in this world as Americans, its going to get uguly and quick!

We better start learning how to take care of one another again!
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