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Old January 13th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #101
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this is a lot of energy spent for naught.

in reality, we are all part of a dream sequence on some late nite soap opera.

our existence will come to an end when the program takes a commercial break.
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Old January 13th, 2010, 01:55 PM   #102
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You make a good point, I should probably read those in order to get what they were saying. But, For the most part, any thing here that is argued here is about the Christian bible. As of now, that's the 64 books of the bible. Genesis through Revalation. Those other books can bring in other views but weren't deamed nessicary and actually in excess of the goal of the bible. In other words, the people that took those out didn't think they were realevent. If you don't like it, that's just how it is.
I know why they censored them, I just wanted you to admit it
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Old January 13th, 2010, 04:17 PM   #103
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HUH?!?!? So are you saying that the slow, gradual erosion didn't actually occur, was made up by people that endorse evolution, and that it was actually a flood?
It could be. I mean, Millions of years....or A larger amount of water. Seems like there could be an equation involved. Either a Slow gradual pace that it is at right now, or a Very Large amount of water in a very small time that eventually reached the equilibrium that it is now. Seems logical to me.

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I know why they censored them, I just wanted you to admit it
Yeah, But to say the bible is Censored is pretty much way off. I mean, There is all sort of NSFW stuff in there......
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Old January 13th, 2010, 04:28 PM   #104
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Yeah, But to say the bible is Censored is pretty much way off. I mean, There is all sort of NSFW stuff in there......
No, When I say "censored" I mean it was actually removed from the bible.

seriously, go look into it.

apocalypse of peter, short read:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.co...r-roberts.html

The book of enoch is actually really really interesting, you should read it when you get a chance
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/
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this is a lot of energy spent for naught.

in reality, we are all part of a dream sequence on some late nite soap opera.

our existence will come to an end when the program takes a commercial break.
Nonononoooooo... I was stoned for a whole week one night when I realized that we are just the dirt under a GIANT fingernail.
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Old January 13th, 2010, 07:27 PM   #106
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It could be. I mean, Millions of years....or A larger amount of water. Seems like there could be an equation involved. Either a Slow gradual pace that it is at right now, or a Very Large amount of water in a very small time that eventually reached the equilibrium that it is now. Seems logical to me.



Yeah, But to say the bible is Censored is pretty much way off. I mean, There is all sort of NSFW stuff in there......
I gotta' hand it to you L4... You are about as calm and rational as one could ever hope to ask of someone in a debate.

Interesting take on the whole space time continuum thing. Got me there. I have no comeback of any sort. Dead silence (scratches head).....
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Old January 13th, 2010, 10:43 PM   #107
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No, When I say "censored" I mean it was actually removed from the bible.

seriously, go look into it.

apocalypse of peter, short read:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.co...r-roberts.html

The book of enoch is actually really really interesting, you should read it when you get a chance
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/
Yeah, I was just more or less making a joke. But I will take a look at those when I get a Chance. Not exactly sure when that will happen.

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I gotta' hand it to you L4... You are about as calm and rational as one could ever hope to ask of someone in a debate.

Interesting take on the whole space time continuum thing. Got me there. I have no comeback of any sort. Dead silence (scratches head).....
I Just enjoy it, try and keep it a conversation not an Argument. That's how it should be. Although, on occasion, I do get a bit frustrated. Usually at people that don't want to listen and just spat their opinion and leave......

Also, I'm serious about the Bible thing. NSFW all over the place. I don't remember who said it, but if you were to make a Graphic Novel (which I think they have) it would be considered Porno in alot of it.
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Old January 15th, 2010, 10:01 AM   #108
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Ok guys I think I may have found what you all have been looking for. I had seen this a longtime back about the meteor crater in Iraq.

http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/175meteorclue.html

it is set at a time where it very well could explain many things. the one thing it doesn't explain as to why Noah was building his boat unless there was someone there who knew Astronomy? if so then he would have been watching the skies to see this coming for many days, weeks or months? it may very well be the key to the story?

since we know there was many Astronomers of old that based many of their life's work on the skies. I will assume for the moment that they saw this coming. if it was a visable enough object in the night skies it may have been coming at them for many weeks, months or years? on the flip side it may have opened a debate among the scholars of the time as to what to do?

they may have surmised if the rock was to hit how bad the damage could be? as to where it would hit they could use math. they had that. it wouldn't have been hard for them even then to predict travel time and a project date of impact.
so I tend to wonder if its not the story you should be debating but rather how the story came to be? if there was multiple people building boats? how to survive a giant wave formation type flood? how did they plan to preserve their lives in the boat(s)? take into account you may have only had days or weeks to do this rather then the 600 years or so the stories have said to build and arc.
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Old January 15th, 2010, 12:30 PM   #109
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Ok guys I think I may have found what you all have been looking for. I had seen this a longtime back about the meteor crater in Iraq.

http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/175meteorclue.html

it is set at a time where it very well could explain many things. the one thing it doesn't explain as to why Noah was building his boat unless there was someone there who knew Astronomy? if so then he would have been watching the skies to see this coming for many days, weeks or months? it may very well be the key to the story?

since we know there was many Astronomers of old that based many of their life's work on the skies. I will assume for the moment that they saw this coming. if it was a visable enough object in the night skies it may have been coming at them for many weeks, months or years? on the flip side it may have opened a debate among the scholars of the time as to what to do?

they may have surmised if the rock was to hit how bad the damage could be? as to where it would hit they could use math. they had that. it wouldn't have been hard for them even then to predict travel time and a project date of impact.
so I tend to wonder if its not the story you should be debating but rather how the story came to be? if there was multiple people building boats? how to survive a giant wave formation type flood? how did they plan to preserve their lives in the boat(s)? take into account you may have only had days or weeks to do this rather then the 600 years or so the stories have said to build and arc.

Thats kind of what I was getting at the begining of this thread. Maybe there were other Civilizations that told stories about a great flood as well as the Hebrew Civilization. That indicates that the Story of Noah could be a true story, or at least the flood could have really happened.
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Old January 16th, 2010, 06:28 PM   #110
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I'm curious why they didn't eat the boat.
Do you really need an answer to why 20k bugs didn't eat the piece of wood separating them from the flooded earth?
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Old January 16th, 2010, 06:54 PM   #111
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Do you really need an answer to why 20k bugs didn't eat the piece of wood separating them from the flooded earth?
That and Cypress wood is Naturally Repelent to bugs, And Warping among other things. Found This site after doing a little search as to why. Seems to be excepted by most building professionals as true. BTW, I didn't purposely go to that site because it talked about Noah's Ark (briefly), that was just a Coincidence.
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Old January 16th, 2010, 07:26 PM   #112
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So tell me Scott, the gear you have on, hard hat c/w light, gloves, heavy duty coat and the shovel. Are you searching for the truth? Or you have found it and are dishing it out.
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So tell me Scott, the gear you have on, hard hat c/w light, gloves, heavy duty coat and the shovel. Are you searching for the truth? Or you have found it and are dishing it out.
Actually, It's a Picture from Halloween. I went as the Shoveler from Mystery men. My all time favorite movie. But...I like where you are going.

:Edit: Ironically enough I'm starting the movie "Year one" right now. Could this be the story of where we came from?
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Interesting... let me know how it turns out
Actually I was just thinking with that shovel you should be digging for the truth.
Any other ideas you need about your movie? let me know more about it.
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Interesting... let me know how it turns out
Actually I was just thinking with that shovel you should be digging for the truth.
Any other ideas you need about your movie? let me know more about it.
Oh, I wasn't making a movie. I was watching the movie "Year One". It was Depressingly Retarded. Not Even funny.
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