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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:04 AM   #1
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Default Dana 60 lockout hitting the spindle.

The hub seats properly.

Lockout hits the spindle before going completely in. I thought it was just an extra depth of a 35 spline lockout, but found some stock lockouts and it's the same.

What am I missing here? It seems that the hub and the spindle is a set depth once it's locked together. Lockouts were on this hub/spindle combo before.

I have room to shave off 1/2" on the spindle with room to spare for the bearing lock nuts, but that doesn't seem like the proper fix.
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:08 AM   #2
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:16 AM   #3
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:26 AM   #4
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Hmmm. C-clip missing? or maybe the incorrect bearing installed on the back side of the hub?

Just a couple thoughts.....
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:28 AM   #5
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Hmmm. C-clip missing? or maybe the incorrect bearing installed on the back side of the hub?

Just a couple thoughts.....
I can get the inner c-clip on, but I can't get the outer on, because the lockout needs to slide back another 1/4".

Having a bigger bearing on there would help my problem by moving the hub further out I have the right bearings in there though.
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:45 AM   #6
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Shouldn't it hit the stub before it hits the spindle???

To me it sounds like your stub is too long
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:51 AM   #7
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i know its not the same axle, but i had the same problem on my 44 when i rebuilt it. (from what i can tell of your description)

the stub shaft would seat itself so far back as i re-assembled the knuckle, that you couldn't just pull it forward to get the last c-clip back on.

The spindle seal would "roll-over" and cause the stub shaft to be recessed to far.
I had to tear it back down and re-seat the outer shaft back into the spindle seal. while holding the stub shaft from being pushed back inward , toward the diff.

or the stone shield as in yetti's post.
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Old January 5th, 2010, 08:04 AM   #8
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Check to make sure the stubs are the same length between chevy and ford, I cant remember if they are off the top of my head but if they are the same then you just need to get a screw driver or pry bar and push/pry the whole shaft deeper into the housing using the ears on the shaft and the back side of the knuckle. If it's bottoming out in the differential and not allowing it to go any further then you'll need to cut the inner down some.
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Old January 5th, 2010, 08:08 AM   #9
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Chevy 12" stub ford 11.4" stub.
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That isn't the problem. The shafts are the proper length. I can put the lockout in, and put the snap ring on the axle shaft without issue. The problem comes is the lockout is physically making contact with the spindle, not allowing the installation of the outer snap ring, and the lockout cover will not sit into the hub over the inner part of the lockout because the inner is making contact with the spindle.

But my question is, why? The only parts of this complete axle that I kept from the old setup is the spindle, hub, and brake bracket.
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Old January 5th, 2010, 09:40 AM   #11
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Is it hitting by roughly the width of the caliper bracket? Did you put the spindle under or over the caliper bracket?
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Old January 5th, 2010, 09:55 AM   #12
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Is it hitting by roughly the width of the caliper bracket? Did you put the spindle under or over the caliper bracket?
OHHHHH Id say is was that!!! Ive done that before That bracket should be about 1/4" thick too.
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I put them on

Knuckle - Caliper bracket - Spindle


Should it be

Knuckle - Spindle - Caliper bracket?


if its the 2nd, then that was obviously the mistake, and that would sink the spindle in the distance I need
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Old January 5th, 2010, 10:03 AM   #14
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nope that is right for a ford.

I say drive slugs and be done
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I put them on

Knuckle - Caliper bracket - Spindle


Should it be

Knuckle - Spindle - Caliper bracket?
Did you bolt on the caliper onto the bracket yet? If thats 1/4" off like the lockout, then you have the order of parts off.
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Knuckle - Caliper bracket - Spindle
Ford

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Knuckle - Spindle - Caliper bracket?
Chevy/Dodge

Not sure about the hubs hitting the spindle, are your spindles 5 bolt fords? What lockouts are you using?
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Chevy/Dodge

Not sure about the hubs hitting the spindle, are your spindles 5 bolt fords? What lockouts are you using?

Yes, 5 bolts, and they were on the axle to begin with which appeared stock. I'm using warn premium 35 spline lockouts. The 35 spline lockout case looks identical to the 30 spline stock case in depth.


wonder if I can put a spacer between the inner bearing on the hub and the end of the spindle, just to bump it out 3/8" of an inch or so.
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Could it be that you have chevy hubs?

Knuckle - Caliper bracket - Spindle is correct for ford parts. And the brake brackets are thicker than 1/4" (you can get by with 3/8" spacer, but I think they are bit thicker from the factory.)
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Could it be that you have chevy hubs?
Maybe, but I would find that really surprising since this axle came out of a driving 1979 f-250.

I guess I'll have to measure the hubs when I get back and see if they're chevy or ford.



You say that stock spacers are larger? Is that what I'm missing, should I have spacers in between the spindle and inner bearing on the hub?
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I'm using warn premium 35 spline lockouts.
Are they the same part number for a ford and chevy? I'd assume so but something doesnt seem right....

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wonder if I can put a spacer between the inner bearing on the hub and the end of the spindle, just to bump it out 3/8" of an inch or so.
As long as you were still on the bearing surface on the spindle I dont see any reason why it wouldnt work temporarily as long as everything lines up.

Did you put the brake rotor on the back side of the wheel hubs?

And just because it sounds like something really "dumb".... You made sure the proper races were in the wheel hubs, right? It sounds like the hub is sitting too deep on the spindle, for some reason.
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