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Old December 26th, 2009, 11:54 AM   #1
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Anybody here run swampers in the winter? Just wondering how bad it is on ice and hard pack snow on the roads. I've got a set of 305/70r16 wrangler ats on my truck but the tread is becoming almost non existant. So I was thinking of using my 33 13.50 ltb swampers, but i've heard horror storys of how swampers do in the winter. Just wondering if anyone is using swampers in the winter.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 11:56 AM   #2
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radial swampers are ok , but if bias ply then deffinatly get the grooved or siped!
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Old December 26th, 2009, 11:57 AM   #3
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Drove for 3 yrs on a set of TSL radials. They hydroplane really easily on wet roads. Any snow or ice on the road and they lose all traction. It's due to the large flat lugs. They are not a good winter tire. Siping may make them better.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 12:00 PM   #4
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Thats kinda what i was thinking, guess i'll just pony up and buy some new winter tires
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Old December 26th, 2009, 12:01 PM   #5
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I'm riding on 36" swampers and have had no problem so far I run them at 30 psi.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 12:05 PM   #6
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I have 33" TSL they SUCK in the snow! I only drive .5 miles to work so I leave them on. I also like hearing people tell me how bad of a tire they are and how far I can't go then when I am right behind them I make them eat their words!!
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Old December 26th, 2009, 12:19 PM   #7
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ive never had any problems runnin swampers in the winter. siping would prolly help out greatly. as far as wheelin, if i ran mine at 10lbs, they wouldnt wheel for shat, down to 5, they would go anywhere.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 12:43 PM   #8
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thay suck a@@ in the winter i love them in the summer find something else to run in the winter
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I ran 33x15.5 SX's for multiple winters in Marquette, I ran about 15psi and never had a problem. On ice they aren't great, but nothing is, you have 4wd, just use it and drive carefully.

I never got stuck, but I did have to pay attention to what I was doing or it was easy to slip and slide.
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Anybody here run swampers in the winter? Just wondering how bad it is on ice and hard pack snow on the roads. I've got a set of 305/70r16 wrangler ats on my truck but the tread is becoming almost non existant. So I was thinking of using my 33 13.50 ltb swampers, but i've heard horror storys of how swampers do in the winter. Just wondering if anyone is using swampers in the winter.
I used to run the same ltb's and it was not fun . Just give yourself some stopping room. I didn't change them just drove slower
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Old December 26th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #11
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you guys all sound like pussies
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I run radial TSL's 32 10.5 They are not good ice or well packed snow tires, but when the snow is deep on or off road they are awsome! have a jeep TJ, and run them at 26 psi all year, when I off road I air down from that. last year up north, the snow was 12 to 18 deep and they go real good.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 06:46 PM   #13
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Thanks for the info guys, guess i'll just bolt em up and see how bad it is
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Grooving them makes a HUGE difference on snow and ice. Both my 36x12.5s and 38.5x14.5s were grooved and did very well on ice and packed snow. I was particularly impressed with the 14.5" wide SXs. In my ~3600lb Toyota, on hard packed ice/snow roads, It easily pulled heavier vehicles (4wd suburban, for example) out of deep snow filled ditches without tire spin, just low range(100:1) and letting the traction pull them out.
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A tire with minimal contact patch and minimal biting edges isn't going to do well on hard packed snow/ice.
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I've never seen anything good from the TSL, LTB, SX, or bogger tread patterns in the winter, and I've seen them all run in any condition winter can throw at you. But some Swampers do great in snow and ice: SSRs, IROKs, and TRXUS STS are all great because they have some nice siping from the factory. I personally ran SSRs and loved them in the snow and had close friends run the other 2 with just as good of results.
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Drove for 3 yrs on a set of TSL radials. They hydroplane really easily on wet roads. Any snow or ice on the road and they lose all traction. It's due to the large flat lugs. They are not a good winter tire. Siping may make them better.

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my tsl radials were useless in wet and slick conditions. the ssr's i have now are better.
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Drove a set of 12.50 wide 36 tsl radials on my F-350 one winter and didn't mind it. But that truck weighed a ton, so they might act different on a lighter rig.
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Anybody here run swampers in the winter? Just wondering how bad it is on ice and hard pack snow on the roads. I've got a set of 305/70r16 wrangler ats on my truck but the tread is becoming almost non existant. So I was thinking of using my 33 13.50 ltb swampers, but i've heard horror storys of how swampers do in the winter. Just wondering if anyone is using swampers in the winter.
Wow..I dont know about swamper performance in the winter but I am actually amazed that there is punctuation and capital letters in this question.
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Old December 30th, 2009, 12:29 AM   #20
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do boggers count? guess it doesnt matter anyways because they sucked until it was 40 degrees and the snow was heavy. Thornturds i had were also not that great......hydroplaned alot but as bbaxj said my cousin had ssr's and they seemed to be pretty solid. Also my old irok's did excellent in all terrain. Didnt have a single complaint with them all year round.
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